Pelosi Pressed To Put IMPEACHMENT Back On The Table

[kpete]

Pelosi pressed to put impeachment back on table
Michael Roston
Published: Wednesday April 25, 2007

When the California Democratic Convention begins this weekend, party progressives both inside and outside the San Diego Convention Center will be pressing hard to bring impeachment back on the table as a means of holding the presidency of George W. Bush accountable for crimes they allege have been committed since 2001.

"I've been blown away by the response. People are wanting to organize and rally behind one single thing at the convention, and that's impeachment," said Joye Swan of the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party, who is helping lead an effort to pass a resolution expressing the California Democratic Party's support for impeaching President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

But the fight will be complicated by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's unwillingness to hear their message and the encouragement that her stance may give opponents of the impeachment measure within the California Democratic Party leadership.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Californians_prepare_to_confront_Pelosi_Democrats_0425.html

[earth mom]

1. It's about time! eom

[Mme. Defarge]

14. I debated

whether or not to remove my "Pelosi 07" bumper sticker and decided to leave it in place. She'll just have to be president, like it or not.

[davidwparker]

2. Here's how to deal with Pelosi ... attention San Fran bloggers.

If chimpeachment does not get on the table, do NOT return Pelosi to Congress. She can sit out a few sessions.

[mike_c]

3. agreed, 100 percent....

eom

[paparush]

5. HERE HERE!!!

2006 wasn't just for show. We, The People, mean business and want some action!

[rinsd]

11. Yes let's cut off that nose!

Let's throw away a liberal Democrat who is the first female Speaker of the House in our history because we disagree on one issue.

Are impeachment activists really just petulant children?

[derby378]

22. We need to make a public spectacle of Bush before the whole world

Only way to get the ball rolling in this regard is impeachment. If he's allowed to leave office, he may very well high-tail it to Paraguay to live out the rest of his days in very comfortable exile. We can't have that.

[rinsd]

23. I understand that

I don't see how working to oust Pelosi does anything towards that goal.

[ends_dont_justify]

25. because she's not doing her job? N/T

[rinsd]

32. Scorched earth petulance. (nt)

[NoPasaran]

38. She is doing her job and doing it well

Pandering to the fantasies of every left-wing wackjob with internet access simply isn't part of the program.

[JackRiddler]

43. "disagree on one issue" ?

Ending an illegitimate, unlawful, unconstitutional and criminal regime is ALL of the issues. There is nothing not affected by this - forevermore. If the Bush regime stands unchallenged under the constitution for all it has wrought, future governments and future gangsters-in-power will be even worse.

And all you have to offer is a bunch of positive-sounding labels.

The Democrats and Pelosicrats are not some vital organ of the world and they are not the ones whom the people must serve or accommodate because they have such fine inner attributes, even as they fail to challenge the Bush regime.

The Democrats can serve the people - in this case, serve an undeniable and necessary justice - or they can go the way of the Whigs.

A real opposition will arise to replace them, if it comes to that.

Are you for ending a criminal government, or are you for facilitating it?

Those are the only two choices - and they were posed not by the impeachment campaign, and not by anyone else in opposition, but by the Bush regime and its state/corporate backers.

[Tigress DEM]

18. Maybe she wanted Cheney 1st.

I can only hope.

[Der Blaue Engel]

30. Yeah, it would really be better if we had a Republican in that seat

:eyes:

I'm not happy with her stance on impeachment, but Nancy Pelosi has done some amazing things in the few months she's been at the helm.

I long for the day when progressives spend more energy working to further progressive causes than they do on throwing petulant tantrums when everything isn't done 100% their way.

By all means tell her she's wrong if you think so, and stay in her face if you feel that strongly about it, but throwing away a terrific but (gasp!) imperfect Speaker of the House is dumbfoundingly shortsighted.

[rodeodance]

4. suggesting that President Bush "is not worth it."

"I totally oppose the impeachment of the President," she explained to RAW STORY on Tuesday. "We have to use our energies to end this war. I don't think the popular support is there for such a move, I don't think we can get any Republican votes to move forward."

Pelosi added, "In some ways, it's a wonderful advocacy piece for those who want to use it outside, to express rejection of the President's policies, but from the standpoint of the time of the Congress of the United States, the American people are with us in ending the war and that's what they want us to do."

She also cast the decision not to impeach as having national electoral implications for the Democratic Party, suggesting that President Bush "is not worth it."

"We will do more to make for our own reelection, and maintain a Democratic Congress...and have a Democratic President," she said. "And frankly, for impeachment, George W. Bush is just not worth it. We have great work to do for the American people."

[Buttercup McToots]

6. He is a Criminal!

Wake up!

[partylessinOhio]

12. "Not worth it?" Now, that is a dangerous thing for you to throw down,

Madame Squeaker! Those same words can be said about you too.

You are worth a timeout so you can spend more time in your vineyards strolling the vines in Armani. You are an enabler and you aren't worth anymore cross country plane trips at our expense. Impeach Bush/Cheney and the war will end immediately. Stop making excuses for your Bud.

Nancy with the laughing face.

[quiet.american]

16. You can bet the moment Obama or Clinton or Edwards or Kucinich takes office --

-- Republican hyenas will be howling for their impeachment for using the wrong brand of pencils in the Oval Office.

[Tigress DEM]

20. He's the puppet, Cheney is the evil hand guiding him.

Once Cheney is gone, I think Bush will resign and retire to that country (Paraguay?)where his daddy bought lots of land. See they don't allow war criminals to be hauled off to the Hague. He's also going to be selling water instead of oil.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Now this is interesting! I wonder How Madame Speaker will handle this one?

Could be a tricky one.:)

[rinsd]

10. Easily. The convention passed a resolution last year and nothing happened.

[MadBadger]

8. Stick to your guns Speaker.

[lonestarnot]

35. blah blah

[blues90]

9. I think there are many others in the house who do not want to go with

Impeachment , there is Reid and others who feel this will tie up their progress and hault things , they seem willing to take the risk even if it's against the will of the people and the constitution demands it .

Good luck .

[calimary]

17. I'd say keep at it (this Californian sure is). It wouldn't be the first time

somebody had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the correct thing.

[warren pease]

19. "Tie up their progress?"

It seems to me that the best way to make progress in this wingnut infested country is to impeach, try, convict and imprison the primary causes of America's long slide back to the 12th century.

The US is now the planet's most dangerous purveyor of state-sponsored terrorism. It has the highest income and accumulated wealth disparity between rich and poor of any industrialized country. And its hostility to sustainable, environmentally sound practices is legendary. BushCo is the cause of these abominations, and hundreds more, and it must be removed before it can do any further damage.

What the hell good is a minimum wage hike, pathetic sum that it was, when the executive branch actively encourages US corporations to move operations to countries where the work force is just a small step above slave labor? And to make sure US workers continue to see their salaries decline, BushCo has accelerated the granting of H1-B visas, and turns a blind eye to employers who routinely hire undocumented workers.

What the hell good does it do to pass a supplementary war funding bill that not only allows the Iraq occupation to continue well into next year, but even includes provisions that can and will be used to keep troops there indefinitely? The problem is BushCo, and the answer is removal from office.

If they're allowed to remain, they'll continue to destroy anything they can get their slimy hands on. To expect otherwise is to breathe new life into the old definition of insanity: Repeating the same action over and over and expecting different results.

BushCo is absolutely predictable. Everything they touch turns to shit. They will always do the worst possible thing, no matter what the issue. They have to go as quickly as possible so the rest of the world can finally breathe a little easier. And we owe them that after the past six years. Most of all, we owe it to ourselves.


wp

[Tigress DEM]

26. Investigations. Without the proof, impeachment don't mean a thing.

The citizen outcry for impeachment is also a good thing. If we push for it to happen, then the hacks can't say it is just their partisan get-back.

I want them investigated AND found guilty.

Hauled away in stripped pj's and chains to the Hague.

[Vincardog]

29. What more proof do you need? They shit on our constitution and brag about it on TV.

When aWoL admits to spying on US citizens and advocates torture and illegal war,
What more proof do you need?

[Tigress DEM]

33. ME? Zero. But to convict, we have to have the missing emails etc.

We have to be able to present evidence in court. And honestly. It would take the rest of the term just to scratch the surface of offenses this gang has committed against us.

But think about this. As good a Fitzgerald was, he only got Libby.

We KNOW Rove and Cheney were involved but can we show where and when what was done to give them their due process so we can slam the door on them?

NO. Because just like Ken Blackwell did in Ohio, they are sitting on the mountain of evidence against them.

[Vincardog]

40. You may need all that to Convict is a court of law. But we are talking about Impeachment

That is a process. You do not have to have all the proof to begin the process.

Libby should not have gotten away with lying to Fitz. That is why he is going to jail.

I refuse to believe that they do not have the proof after jr BRAGS about it on TV.

Just play back the SOTU speech and list the lies. There is your proof.

[EVDebs]

41. If * vetoes the Iraq Occupation funding bill, then impeachment becomes

a viable option; first Cheney, then *. It's just that simple. The 'olive branch' for these guys right now is about letting them have some time. That's all. Time's up without some results. Pelosi gets it.

[blues90]

34. I agree with everything you said .

Bernie Sanders on friday with Hartman always is asked this question and he is the one who always relates this as a bad idea , impeachment that is . It's not my point of view at all .

[StarryNite]

13. If * and his misadministration

have not pulled enough shit to warrant impeachment then just what would it take? Impeach the bastards.

[porphyrian]

15. Good. It's past due. - n/t

[Individualist]

21. Keep pushing, California Progressives

Make yourselves heard. :applause:

[GreenTea]

24. It is congresses sworn duty to uphold the constitution.

To investigate and have hearings on obvious impeachable offenses and to impeach if proven...Congress doesn't have a right to ignore impeachable crimes.

Republicans in congress just ignored their responsibility because they are of the same party as the executive branch...completely ignoring the constitution as always.

And only congress, who represents the people can bring impeach charges, that is
congresses sworn duty as written in the constitution...Congress does not have a choice, the constitution makes that very clear. The Senate can not initiate impeachment proceedings only our representatives in congress can...Although we see many in congress who are afraid and look the other way. That again is a dereliction of their sworn duty.

Investigations & hearings that will prove laws were broken by Cheney & Bush

A sworn duty, one which the republican congress ignored...If the executive branch has broken laws, this is not a decision for Pelosi to make this is her constitutional duty, she would be derelict in her duties NOT to have hearings and move towards investigations, hearings and impeachment.

Just as the republican congress did nothing and were derelict in their sworn duties to have hearings on obvious or even suspect laws that were being broken and compromised.


Pelosi has no other authority but to protect and obey the Constitution....Kucinch is doing his job and taking the correct steps.

[ends_dont_justify]

27. How long do we have to allow our party to be guilty by association?

Or not doing what they seemed clear at one time they wanted to do? Kerry just rolls over and doesn't recount, Pelosi just rolls over and doesn't even try and see what happens with impeachment. We should seriously get some better candidates to replace these people who currently aren't doing anything, and find a way to better support the ones who are trying.

[porphyrian]

28. Conyers, Kucinich and Waxman are earning their pay.

The rest should seriously examine their position.

[mnhtnbb]

31. You gotta' remember Pelosi got where she is by raising money.

She's as beholden to the big money Dem interests as any Republican is
in their party.

She's NOT a progressive. She was Dick Gephardt's buddy.

[lovuian]

36. Oh Ya baby sista you must have had the phone ring off the

hook and your getting if she doesn't she is going to have to vote against it or abstain and thats gonna be ugly

Dennis has got them where he wants them

[MyNameGoesHere]

37. The impeachment option does not belong to her

I never liked it when she "took it off the table". First it does not belong to her and it is not her table. It is MY TABLE and my CONSTITUTIONALLY guarantied recourse for a tyrannical administration. She had no right saying that.

[Jcrowley]

39. Kick and Rec n/t

[Kurovski]

42. K&R.

There are two posts of this article floating around the greatest page.

Good! :-)