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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:06 AM
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Is Coakley as much of an asshole/dimwit as she is portrayed in the media?
She does not seem like a particularly good candidate, or even a decent person, certainly seems to lie a lot.
Is this just Mass. politics?

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:07 AM
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1. What do you read? RW rag sheets? Her opponent is a dimwit and an asshole, though,
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 11:09 AM by Mass
She is not a great campaigner, but she is very popular in the state. She has been a good attorney general and is reasonably progressive.

However, the media have been raving about the nice guy who posed nude, but has been lying through his teeth when it comes to her positions.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:34 AM
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3. I can only think of a few things I disagree with her about.
And most fall in the civil liberties category, so I'm guessing her opponent isn't much better.

e.g. She argued that allowing defense to cross examine forensics "experts" would put too great a burden on prosecutors. In light of the amount of incompetence and malfeasance from crime labs, that's a pretty crappy statement.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:59 AM
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7. then I';; kick on a few more bucks to get her out of the AG seat.
She makes me uncomfortable, but the alternative her winning is unthinkable to me.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:56 AM
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5. Media aside, her record does have some issues.
Reading her Wikipedia article, she seems to consistently take a much more conservative stance on certain matters even when that stance is patently absurd, like justifying the bomb scare over those LED signs in 2007 because "It had a very sinister appearance, it had a battery behind it, and wires." She refused to reprimand the state's District Attorneys for breaking campaign laws and patently lying about the now voter approved marijuana reform law, then she lied about it HERSELF.

None of it's enough that I don't think she should be elected, but in Massachusetts, we should be able to do better than this.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:59 AM
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6. She is not perfect, but she does not deserve the attacks in the OP.
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 12:00 PM by Mass
She was not my candidate during the primary, but as far as I am concerned, dimwit and asshole is very much out of bounds.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:01 PM
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8. If a Republican took the same positions, we'd call them a lot worse.
Mind you that this is from somebody who's raised money for Coakley, but I've got little time or tolerance for people who want to keep pursuing absolutely insane drug and terrorism policies.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:07 PM
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9. She was not my candidate, but the priority is not to insult her, but to get her elected.
The alternative is unacceptable. Brown is about as RW as Kyl.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:08 PM
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10. No personal attack on her, as far as I can tell...
the OP is merely stating that the media seem to be implying that she is an asshole/dimwit and is asking if she is what they seem to be saying she is.

Not at all like saying, "I think she's an asshole/dimwit"

Which I don't feel would be out of bounds even if the OP actually did say it. People are entitled to their opinions of political figures, aren't they?


Anyway, not trying to start a fight or anything. Just wanted to point out that the OP didn't specifically call Martha Coakley an asshole.

:shrug:





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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:12 PM
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11. right now, people in MA are trying to get her elected because the choice is not acceptable.
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 12:13 PM by Mass
The media are working hard to try to destroy her, so, you're right, the OP is not attacking her, however, he is repeating attacks without even sourcing them. Not exactly helpful.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:08 AM
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2. it's the MSM.
I don't think she's the greatest candidate but she is not some terrible person or liar. Brown is the one lying his fucking ass off.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:55 AM
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4. She was the boringly-safe candidate in what was expected to be very easy race.
Then the national Republican Party and all of their
"independent expenditures" friends stepped in.

Capuano would have been a much more effective
candidate in this sort of real, hard-fought race, even
though he had less statewide name recognition than
did Coakley.

Tesha
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:27 PM
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12. I'm not crazy about her, but we NEED her right now.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:48 PM
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13. HECK NO....the GOP is so afraid of her they have the
swift boat assholes making up ads...what does that tell you. I think the democrats should make an ad. Tell them that brown was so desperate he had the swift boats try to do to Coakley what they did to their Senator Kerry. Tell outrageous lies about him. the problem is the democrats do not stand up and fight ...it's time they did.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:51 PM
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14. Yes she is...
She's a paid shill of the health insurance industry and other neo-liberal interests.. The only difference between her and the Repig is that she's not a bigot.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:54 PM
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15. the republicons are pulling out all the stops...this was Ted Kennedy's seat after all.
nothing they would love more than to take the seat held by Ted
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:36 PM
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16. I read a blttle further into this - I expect it's the GOP controlled press in Mass
that seems to be in a real panic about her.... she does have some problems, but I will probably back her with my limited finances...


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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:57 PM
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17. Back Up
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 03:59 PM by otohara
what did you read or hear that led to asshole/dimwit
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