Question about Ohio 2004 and the Supreme Court

[BattyDem]

With all this information coming out about Ohio, election fraud, etc., would it be possible to impeach Roberts and Alito or force them to resign? If the election was stolen, then Bush* had NO LEGAL RIGHT to nominate/appoint judges to the US Supreme Court ... or any US court. Yes, I know ... Congress certified the election, but if that certification was based on fraudulent vote counts, wouldn't it become null and void? :shrug:

DU legal scholars ... please chime in. :-)

[Eurobabe]

1. that sure would be rich....illegal appointments!!

Let's hope this is the case.

[orleans]

2. i don't know. but i think once you've passed go all bets are off

since the fuckhead made it into the white house (one way or another) he's in. we can't take it all back. unfortunately.

but i don't know this for sure.

[AllegroRondo]

3. My take on it

Even if there is proof the election was stolen, Bush was inaugurated and is serving as president. Because he was inaugurated, he does have the legal right to appoint justices.

Now, Congress could always decide that they should impeach the justices because of this, but thats up to them. They could not just declare that the appointments were illegal and recall them.

[BattyDem]

4. That makes sense, but I really don't like the idea that we have to live with it.

There should be some kind of remedy for the American people. The argument can certainly be made that one of the reasons they stole the election was to pack the courts with right-wing idealogues. Why should we have to live with the results of their fraud? :shrug: :-(

[AllegroRondo]

9. The remedy is impeachment

If enough in congress feel these justices should not be there, they can impeach.

[MonkeyFunk]

13. well

they'd have to prove some sort of misconduct to impeach and remove them. Simply being nominated by Bush wouldn't be sufficient.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

5. Do You Really Expect ANYTHING To Come Of This????

It's obvious the election was stolen. I'm sure many in the media and even government have known this, yet NOTHING has been done.

They'll just let this circulate on the internet for a couple of days, and then pretend like nothing happened. Like they've been doing the past 2 years.

Besides, they stole 2000 also, and nobody stopped them then.

[BattyDem]

15. No, not really.

But since the idea crossed my mind, I figured I'd ask my fellow DUers what they thought about the possibility. :-)

[fasttense]

6. All the dancing supremes who still remain on the court, were on the court in 2000,

and who voted for bush's appointment as fake president should be IMPEACHED.

[valerief]

7. The friggin war was based on fraudulent intel, but that's still going on! nt

[peacetalksforall]

8. I think placing those judges was probably in the top three reasons

for stealing the elections. They probably had already figured it all out with the assistance of their partners from the Federalist Society.

[BattyDem]

16. That was my thought, too.

We already know that they politicized the Justice Department. It makes sense that they would want to politicize the courts, too. I guess what I'm trying to say is ... if Congress is going after them for what they've done to the Justice Department, why can't they go after them for what they've done to the courts? A politicized court system is just as dangerous to our country as a politicized justice system. :-(

[L. Coyote]

10. THE SYSTEM: Electoral College votes, Congress signed on. OVER. + RECALLS

See, the system works! And, the system allows for impeachment. That's where this isssue can be righted. And, if not by such means, next will be the election. Then, they will see how the system really works this time around.

Ohh, let's not forget State Constitutions with RECALL provisions. If the don't do what the People want, let's use that wonderful CA Republican idea and give them the Pete Wilson treatment, by recalling Senators not up for re-election in 2008.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. Senators cannot be recalled n/t

[L. Coyote]

14. From the Arizona Contitution: "Every public officer... is subject to recall..."

Senator Kyle is!!

1. Officers subject to recall; petitioners

Section 1. Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment, is subject to recall from such office by the qualified electors of the electoral district from which candidates are elected to such office. Such electoral district may include the whole state. Such number of said electors as shall equal twenty-five per centum of the number of votes cast at the last preceding general election for all of the candidates for the office held by such officer, may by petition, which shall be known as a recall petition, demand his recall.

One must read each State Constitution.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/const/8/1.p1.htm

[MonkeyFunk]

17. And that provision has been

invalidated by the Supreme Court.

sigh

[MonkeyFunk]

11. No

regardless of the popular vote, Bush was certified properly the electoral congress and the US Congress.

He is the President. The same is true for 2000.