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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:18 AM
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Arizona's Charter Schools are considered "public". . BUT
Apparently not when it comes to Federal EEO regulations.

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/323905.php

PHOENIX — Employees cannot use federal civil-rights laws to sue the owners of Arizona charter schools, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday.

The judges acknowledged that under Arizona law, charter schools are "public schools." They are authorized to operate under state law and must comply with some, but not all, of the same requirements that cover conventional district schools.

But Judge Sandra Ikuta, writing for the unanimous court, said that does not make the school and its owners "state actors," something required to make a civil-rights challenge. Instead, the court concluded, the school is a private company, at least for purposes of deciding whom to hire, fire and, in this case, whether to provide a referral for a future job.


The particulars of the specific case attached to this ruling are problematic, but I certainly hope the ACLU is all over this one. . . .especially since Tucson is ahead of the curve in the implementation of Charter programs.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:21 AM
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1. So They're Private AND Public? That's A Cute Little Trick
:crazy:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:26 AM
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2. Apparently they are "public" , but not "state actors". .
It seems to me that this allows for a boatload of shenanigans.. cherry picking of students, ideological litmus tests in hiring, etc etc.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:13 PM
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6. Lots of shenanigans
True.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:36 PM
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8. Guess This IS Where I Differ From President Obama And duncan
That is all.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:54 PM
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13. And most importantly, allows public funds to go into private pockets
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:31 AM
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3. Why Arizona is the bottom state in education
That is one of many many problems concerning education here in Arizona. I moved here from Mississippi and was shocked at the education system in Arizona, and often found myself laughing at how inferior Arizona is to Mississippi in education. For someone from Mississippi to laugh at your education system is something to be very ashamed of, but the people here don't seem to be bothered.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:48 AM
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4. Ok now.. THAT is a jaw dropper . .n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:16 PM
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7. It is appalling
I live in Phoenix and I think the problem is we have a lot of transplants from the Midwest and inland CA here who like their low property taxes and don't give a shit about the schools because they don't have kids in them. They've got their McMansions and their golf and their strip malls and Shurf Joe is keeping them "safe".
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:30 PM
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5. The power of fascism.
They are the government when stealing from the taxpayers, but they are private when violating the law.

Welcome to The New World Order. (yore kids don't rilly need much ejumakashun whut wood they do wif it anyhowz)


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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:41 PM
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9. The answer is - Canon fodder
Not much education needed for that.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:49 PM
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10. Good point. The less they know, the easier the military's job of indoctrination becomes. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:43 PM
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11. Kick for private public schools that only have to obey "some" regulations.
:think:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:15 PM
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12. Let's watch them shrink the whole CONCEPT of "public".
Corporatists need to monetize everything...
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