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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:54 PM
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A Conservative 2008 projection: The GOP is screwed
The days of Bush's victory are long gone, with Democrats now firmly in control of the following 'red' states: Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, Missouri, Nevada and Ohio. These six states swing to the Democrats the election with 309 electoral votes vs. 229 for the Republicans


http://www.gopnation.com/vote.html




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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:55 PM
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1. I would flip FL, VA, and WVA
n/t.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:57 PM
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5. No
Florida is for all intents and purposes a GOP lock, thanks to the home-field advantage they own because of the local officials who control the elections. Spending campaign money there is a fool's errand...but maybe we don't need to.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:06 PM
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7. i dont agree will. i think its taken a very heavily rigged game
and jebs lead foot on the throttle to keep it from going blue.

i think florida can be swung now that jebs out.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:25 PM
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14. That's a defeatist attitude
Sorry, but even if it's GOP-controlled we should not give up. It says "why vote when Diebold will count" as some on this site were moaning in 2005 and 2006. Guess what? States like MD and VA (and OH in 2006) have Diebold, and we still won! While touch-screen machines are vulnerable to fraud (and Ohio in 2004 and Christine Jennings are good examples) it doesn't mean that they are ALWAYS susceptible, and in EVERY region of a given state.
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:23 PM
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13. Virginia
--- Virginia will be blue for any candidate except Hillary. Not bashing,... just saying.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:32 PM
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17. really? how do you know?
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 04:32 PM by WI_DEM
just sayin'
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:30 PM
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16. I would also flip OH
I think the Buckeye state has had enough of the puke machine for a long time to come.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:56 PM
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2. That's "screwn". And I want to see some BLUE down South. nt
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:56 PM
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3. Actually, they are "screwn".
And I wouldn't be so sure that Montana is in their column, either. It's been trending Democratic lately..
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:28 PM
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15. It's still Republican on the Presidential level
Tester only narrowly won election, and Schweitzer only got into office in 2004 was about 5-6%. Also, the GOP took back one of the houses in the state legislature by one seat (that election was close, however.) However, I think there is an outside chance of Montana going blue, but until I see polls, I
m going to assume that it will still go red. With Virginia, Bush only won there by single digits in 2000 and 2004 (and Clinton almost won Virginia in 1996.)
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:56 PM
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4. I think at least one southern state can be flipped as well
I think Arkansas or Virginia could turn blue
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:59 PM
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6. How embarrassed am I to live in a *GASP* red state!?!?!?
We're a bit more blue now than we have been, but still way too red! :blush:

It would be nice if it would go just a bit more blue, perhaps lavender...

Oh, wait...that would never work. :(
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electprogdems Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:08 PM
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8. I'd bet anything Montana goes blue
People seem to be able to think for themselves there - The governor (dem) did a 60 min spot and I was very very impressed. (obviously not enough to remember name :P)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:08 PM
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9. I don't remember CA ever being a red state...
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:14 PM
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10. We're not so blue here in Missouri
We do have a mixed Senate and we are trending bluer, that said however, we are still under the thumb of baby doc blunt and a republic house and senate. There are pockets of low browed knuckle draggers here who will never change, were it not for KC, St. Louis, and Colombia, we would have lost the election last fall.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:20 PM
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11. the "southern strategy" is for suckers...
as this map shows, we don't need them.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:21 PM
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12. It seems they'll always count on the South.
:eyes:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:32 PM
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18. We'll counter with the interior West
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 04:32 PM by mvd
All we need is a candidate who pays attention to their needs, and we'll be golden. And hopefully Arkansas will go Democratic. Not as worried about Ohio now.

Florida could still have shenanigans. But the map is looking good for the right candidate.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:33 PM
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19. no swing state is a lock at this point. It depends on who the candidates are
and what the issues are in '08. The election is nearly two years away and that is a lifetime in politics. I take nothing for granted.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:35 PM
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20. Nevada just voted another repuke as Governor
how is that firm control? and they sent jon porter back to congress???
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:36 PM
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21. I think NC can be flipped. Our demographics are changing.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:04 PM
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22. 2 more years of chimpy and the map will resemble...
the electoral map from November 1932, on election night 2008.
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