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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:05 AM
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Seymour Hersh Article in Buzzflash Bush is a Very Dangerous Man
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/14010621/national_affairs_cheneys_nemesis_seymour_hersh_reveals_white_houses_secret_plan_to_bomb_iran/print

Just proves our point how dangerous bush really is.

just a snip from the article

Is what's gone on in the Bush administration comparable or worse than what went on in the Nixon administration?

Oh, my God. Much worse. Bush is a true radical. He believes very avidly in executive power. And he also believes that he's doing the right thing. I think he's a revolutionary, a Trotsky. He's a believer in permanent revolution. So therefore he's very dangerous, because he's an unguided missile, he's a rocket with no ability to be educated. You can't change what he wants to do. He can't deviate from his policy, and that's frightening when somebody has as much power as he does, and is as much a radical as he is, and is as committed to democracy -- whatever that means -- as he is in the Mideast. I really do believe that's what drives him. That doesn't mean he's not interested in oil. But I really think he thinks democracy is the answer.

:scared:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:09 AM
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1. Maybe you can't change what he wants to do, but he can be stopped
Impeach and remove from power.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:12 AM
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3. he can be stopped if our congress and ourselves find the will.
* is a very sick man. It has been proven in so many articles.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:26 AM
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13. Our Congress is ONLY thinking of '08!! --Dems included!!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:10 AM
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2. Too bad we don't have ANY "Mr. Smith" types on either side of the Congressional aisles.
:thumbsdown:

All that is important for our mostly "gutless wonder" representatives is for them to pad their campaign chests, keep their wives lobbying for the family (see Senator Reid's wife), and, in general, keeping the status quo of ENDLESS war for Peace. Oh our Democratic Reps talk big but they can't even IMPEACH when it is glaringly obvious ... what are the odds that they will do ANYTHING solid to stop these illegal occupations?!?

The Congress is all about Power, their personal careers and maintaining the Status Quo. :puke: :grr:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 03:01 PM
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28. Oh but there IS a "Mr Smith"
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 03:02 PM by bvar22
His last name is Kucinich.

He scares the other Corporate Owned Dmocrats, so they work to marginalize him. Many here at DU buy in to the whispering campaigns sponsored by CorpoAmerica and their mouthpieces in DC.

Check it out.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:17 AM
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4. Yeah Bush takes away America's rights, but fights for Democracy abroad
what a frakkin' joke. :mad:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:27 AM
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14. that's what he wants everyone to think, he is not thinking
about a "democracy".
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:11 AM
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26. that's for damn sure, it's one of those puppetocracies he wants
in the M.E.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:19 AM
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5. "One of the things this administration has shown us is how fragile democracy is."
This seems to be something that Bush has in common with Nixon: the White House ignoring everyone and seeking to become a government unto itself.

One of the things this administration has shown us is how fragile democracy is. All of the institutions we thought would protect us -- particularly the press, but also the military, the bureaucracy, the Congress -- they have failed. The courts . . . the jury's not in yet on the courts. So all the things that we expect would normally carry us through didn't. The biggest failure, I would argue, is the press, because that's the most glaring.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:20 AM
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6. So he thinks Democracy is the answer, but has no understanding of it!
I think that this does get to the nub of it all - he is a mad man, he is insane....and essentially just keeps going in his own particular, peculiar, dangerous, destructive direction because no one or nothing has been able to (honestly tried to??) stop him.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:23 AM
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8. His vision of "democracy" is just Feudalism with iPods.
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:21 AM
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7. File that one under "Duh!"
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:23 AM
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9. Except Bush defines "Democracy" as "Laissez-faire Capitalism".
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 10:23 AM by WinkyDink
It has NOTHING to do with rights, as far as he's concerned. That's why he loves Saudi Arabia and China.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:48 AM
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22. Yep
In their minds: Democracy = Business Profits

And why wouldn't they? Our whole society is based upon money and financial profits. Just about everything you see that is not natural has a profit motive behind its creation.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:24 AM
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10. And ultimately for Bush - Democracy = Christianity
He just doesn't want to democritize them, he wants to save their souls.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:24 AM
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11. Bush is determined to shove freedom and democracy down the
throats of everyone in the world. Whether they want it or not.

It's the American way.

Congress had better get it together, or there will need to be another house cleaning in 2008. If these people won't do what we want them to do, throw the bums out and find some who will!

(I know this isn't as easy as it sounds, but it must be done.)
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:25 AM
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12. Bush is dangerous because he is a very ignorant man.
Ignorant people have a closed mind because they do not think. When you do not think someone else has to do the thinking for you. As long as people like Cheney and Rove control the Republican party we will have a problem in our government.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:37 AM
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18. yes, a very big problem that affects us all, why doesn't Congress
realize that, this affects all of us.:shrug:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:32 AM
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15. Excellent. thanks for the article.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:32 AM
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16. My anxiety has been set on high for the last 6 years and
there's still approx. 20 more months left for my nightmare to come true (of the DECIDER pushing that infamous red button).

Damn, I hope somebody ropes in this idiot before he does further damage to lives, freedom and the morale of billions around the world.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:39 AM
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20. it's amazing how many good people are gone, talking about past (dem)presidents
I do not need to say more.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:33 AM
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17. Sociopath...psychopath
(from Dr. Robert Hare, PhD)

Sociopaths lie, cheat, steal and even kill
Then they move on to the next victim

If you only know one thing about psychology, you should know about sociopaths. Being aware of sociopaths could help you avoid emotional trauma, ruined finances, even an untimely death.

Sociopathy, also called psychopathy, is a personality disorder characterized by deceit on a scale most of us cannot imagine. These people are not crazy; they know exactly what they are doing. Here is how Robert D. Hare, Ph.D., begins his book about psychopaths, Without Conscience:

"Psychopaths are social predators who charm, manipulate and ruthlessly plow their way through life, leaving a broad trail of broken hearts, shattered expectations and empty wallets. Completely lacking in conscience and feelings for others, they selfishly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or regret."

Why is it so critical for you to know about sociopaths? Because millions of sociopaths are living among us. Yes, many of them are criminals, locked up in jail. But far more are on the street, hurting people without breaking laws, operating in the gray areas between legal and illegal, or simply eluding the authorities. They can appear to be normal, but they pose a tremendous threat to us all.

Sociopaths exhibit a range of behaviors. In fact, Dr. Hare diagnoses them according to their score on a scale. So just as you could describe someone's intelligence as ranging from smart to genius, you could describe a sociopath as somewhere between sleazy and serial killer. If you see sleazy, he may be on the low end of the scale, but he's still bad news.


These people do not change. They cannot be rehabilitated. The sooner you can get away from them, the better off you'll be.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:38 AM
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19. When Bush ran in 2000 he promised to surround himself with the most brillant people...
... the disconnect is that those people he considers to be 'brillant' are mostly incompetent, committed to enriching corporate interests, but 'loyal.'

We have to admit this is an Administration operating with a 'brainpower deficit.'
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:41 AM
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21. unless he surrounds himself around incompetent people
then he proclaim himself being the smartest person. Bill Maher said something like that Friday nite.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:50 AM
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23. Bush wants democracy? Give me a break. Hersh misspoke.
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 11:03 AM by Peace Patriot
I've never seen such sloppy remarks from Hersh. Perhaps he was just trying to drive a point home--that, unlike all those around Bush, Bush is not greed-driven, but rather ideology-driven. It's an interesting insight, but to say that Bush "believes in democracy" is so wrong as to be laughable. Bush believes in tyranny--HIS tyranny. He doesn't give a crap for what the people of this country want (or any country). His every action speaks of utter contempt for democracy. Ignoring our laws. Shredding our Constitution. Torturing prisoners. Pervasive, illegal domestic spying. The "unitary executive." His lawless RNC/Bushite machine purging millions of black voters from the voting rolls. His pals at Diebold/ES&S foisting "trade secret," proprietary vote counting upon the country. His use of the word "democracy" is completely delusional. It is cant. It is demagoguery. It is Orwellian. And to not put it in quotes, and not draw attention to his egregious misuse of this word, is very sloppy writing--or, in this case speaking. It's not like Hersh, who is usually more disciplined and thoughtful in his use of words.

Has Bush's psychosis--and inarticulateness--affected us all? Sometimes I wonder if this junta isn't designed to drive us all crazy. It's like we're living in "Through the Looking Glass." Alice in Wonderland. Everything upside down, backwards and inside out.

Note: It's possible that the interviewer didn't catch Hersh's nuances. I'm sure he doesn't think that Bush actually believes in democracy. Bush is a feudalist--a medievalist--and a psychotic bully. He clearly, demonstrably, wants to be a dictator.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:08 AM
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25. Thank you! No 'freedom', No 'democracy', and No God w/B*.
I don't believe ANY of their lies. Hersh has it wrong.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:57 AM
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24. Hersh says: "....fire or execute ninety percent of the editors and executives" in the PRESS...
What can be done to fix the situation?

You'd have to fire or execute ninety percent of the editors and executives. You'd actually have to start promoting people from the newsrooms to be editors who you didn't think you could control. And they're not going to do that.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:39 PM
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27. kick and read
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