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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:36 AM
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What Are The Strategies Now That The Kill-The-Bill Crowd Has Lost?
What do the kill-the-bill people do next?

What do the pass-the-bill people do next?

Anybody wanna guess?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:38 AM
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1. Depends on whether you're talking about the LIBERAL kill-the-billers
or the CONSERVATIVE bill killers!

:rofl:
rocktivity
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:58 AM
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12. I'm making the assumption that the R conservatives are irrelevant.
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 11:59 AM by stopbush
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:39 AM
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2. Transfer their negativity and bitterness onto whatever comes next--
they've developed a taste for tearing down the administration--it's fun and rewarding, and it gets you a lot of rec's.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:48 AM
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7. That may well be true if the administration continues on the path of corporate welfare
while the people languish. It is not reckless, wanton criticism. It is a fight for the survival of those of us not in the top 1%. I won't apologize for that.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:49 AM
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8. LOL. I know what it is.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:26 PM
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17. Yep! At least 125-150 recs (in GD anyway)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:40 AM
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3. Hopefully we'll all just get along.
That would really catch the Republicans off guard. :)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:43 AM
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4. Hard to tell. There are so many other Obama failures to turn to.
War. DADT. DOMA. We'll have to confab and get back to you. Meanwhile, go enjoy some turkey - it's Christmas!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:45 AM
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5. Let's not forget NAFTA...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:47 AM
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6. And Education.
So many more - I'll need to keep my strength up just to make the list.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:51 AM
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9. Spend even more time trying to escape the middle class
because this will become a nation of the very rich, and the poor.

And I don't want to be poor.

I don't rate my chances as very good.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:58 AM
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11. Know any rich widows?
At least YOU can marry your way into wealth! :)

Hey, it's a tried-and-true option for some.

Or there's always Lotto. But yeah, the odds suck there.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:16 PM
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15. BTDT...
my ex was the daughter of the Exec VP of Phillips Petroleum (before it became Conoco/Phillips).

I never fit in (middle class smart kid from a farm in Kansas). Her dad liked me (he grew up 30 miles from my family farm, worked his way up the corporate ladder). Her mom, she was a good republican country club socialite, felt I wasn't good enough for her daughter.

Anyway, the perks were fun (private jet travel, family vacations at various places, awesome Christmas gifts, loan to buy a house, etc, etc). The downside was... well, she was a little spoiled and I didn't earn the kind of money that daddy did...

So... yeah, BTDT.

Rather have my own fortune.

Oh, the special executive gas card (good at all Phillips gas stations) was awesome. Wash you windows, check your oil, fill up your tank, all for "free", usually with as many "yessirs and will that be all, sir" to the point of embarrassment (mine).
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:03 PM
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13. I've chosen to be poor and for me it is a comfortable lifestyle.
Striving to be middle class has never appealed to me and so never have been. My income is very low, but then so are my obligations and expenses. I am satisfied with simplicity of my life and being poor doesn't bother me.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 04:27 PM
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16. I've been all three...
and it's very expensive to be poor. More expensive than most people imagine.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:39 PM
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21. Actually it is very inexpensive for me.
I could work harder and more often and make more money and be less poor, but when is the point when I have all that I need now. It's just me and I can live very comfortably very, very cheaply. At this point I choose to not work more or make more money than I need than to take care of my expenses.

Poverty as a choice is liberating.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:51 AM
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10. My plan is to find a way to keep pressure on our elected representatives
to repeal the regressive funding mechanisms in the bill and add some government run options. I'll also advocate for repeal of this bill and passage of HR 676.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:14 PM
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14. The law will be overturned.
Either by a conservative or more progressive congress or the Supreme Court.

It isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:32 PM
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18. Onto the next issue
Where some people will become kill the bill types who were cheerleaders, some who wanted to kill this bill become cheerleaders, and some players in the pro/con stay the same where some people are always anti-Obama and others are always pro-Obama regardless of the issue.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:33 PM
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19. Well...
The KTBers will continue to play "gotcha" games, sling shit at anyone that doesn't agree with them, and furiously masturbate in the glow of their self-righteous indignation.

The PTBers will accept the political reality and look for ways to improve things.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:36 PM
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20. Hope for the best in the conference committee
Can we all agree we would like to see the conference committee put the public option in the bill and remove anything Nelson or Stupak put in it?
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 09:52 PM
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22. I'm part of the Improve-the-Bill crowd
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 09:53 PM by FarLeftFist
Kill-the-Bill=RW rhetoric
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:04 PM
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23. When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout.
I wish more comments would be reserved for things that have actually happened and consequences that have actually resulted.
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