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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:13 PM Original message |
Why are Progressives falling in line? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:16 PM Original message |
Interesting question. I wonder if we'll ever really know.... |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Progressives have no leverage... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Why couldn't Sanders filibuster? |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Because he wants something more than nothing... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Our Leaders are far too clever for us to understand n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:17 PM Original message |
house--- senate conference |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Because they know it is the best bill that can be passed by this Senate... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Because governing is harder than posting on the internet. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't care who is falling in line and who is not |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Then you should be furious with progressives for caving in on this. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. my sentiments exactly. n/t |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. They want something over nothing. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think they were bluffing |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why do jackass centrists suddenly care what progressives think? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. ! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Maybe it's because self-proclaimed Progressives have been extremely loud and vocal about it? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. that too |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. +1 LOL. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. +1 |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. !!!! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. Because centrists will still need someone to do all their work for them. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't think it's a conspiracy -- but it certainly |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. never mind. why bother |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. Because the Senate is lousy with conservatives in both parties |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. Maybe there is a chance for the House to pull a fast one.... |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. Dean said today that there were changes to the bill that he could support |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
20. Maybe because they have priorities other than bitching on the internet. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. psssst.... I know all that |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Hehehe |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
23. I think it's heavy duty arm twisting. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. That is what "they" meant by Chicago style politics- but's only used against Liberals. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. You have a point. Sad, but accurate. n/t |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:33 PM Original message |
Because they want the win even if it's not a win |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. Kicking the ball down the road |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. I honestly think they're doing it "for the greater good" of the party. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. lol, I might take you up on your wager, but we'd have to get specific |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I guess I did make a challenge for a bet there, didn't I? |
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MikeE (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. My thought is... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. They are trying to do the best with the shitty hand theyve been dealt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. Unlike Nelson and Lieberman, they lack spines |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. What a hero your boy is!!! |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Certainly not my hero! |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Is he your hero? |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Bookmark this one |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. You would certainly know about those |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. There are not enough progressives in Congress to make very much difference. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. They can fully count on Americans doing nothing in reaction to being routinely fucked over |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. They where pushing for a few more crumbs. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. They got fed with pork for their states. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Because unlike Blue Dogs & DLC Purists, progressives actually do compromise all the time. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. They're doing it to vindicate you of course |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
44. fear, coersion, intimidation, "hope" that the few good things |
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SOCALS (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
45. If they fall in line, |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. You're wrong that the bill is worse than the status quo. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Have you been out of the house in the last 50 years? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Then you haven't been on DU lately. Just because you |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. In general, no, but in this case it does. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. To each his own. n/t |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
52. Rahmbo - I am sure he has been very threatening. Sad |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
54. arm twisting |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
58. It;s called Party Unity -- Too bad it didn't happen sooner when it coulda made a difference |
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