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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:08 PM Original message |
Howard Dean says pass the Senate bill! |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. That damn traitorous DINO corporatist shill! |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Don't get so giddy... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Or....maybe he just got more details and some progress and changed his mind? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. The facts are that the health-insurance lobby... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Not to mention all those Dean avatars being sported right now. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Here are the talking points from the article |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. I wont say I told ya so |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. So we all love the bill now? We are so fickle. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. really? who said anything about loving the bill? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. There is rejoicing because Dean caved. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Dean was trying to strengthen the bill. And, I believe he may have helped |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Oh, come on. He is backing off. So would I. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. MF I don't think Dean is beholden to anyone. Here is what I thought would happen all along. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Of course he backed down...you can't fight the whole system |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Why would he back down AFTER the bill passed the Senate and not before? |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. What leverage do they have over Dean? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. So you're saying Dean is some sort of spineless wimp. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I am saying DU is so happy now. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I support Dean's critique. |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Look at his expression on MTP. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. If I was in Congress.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. And what if we have a President Palin? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I'm not sure this bill actually prevents that |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. That does not mean he is for the bill /nt |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Yeah |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. No, it means that under the current system we have, it would do more harm to kill it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I'm going to let |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
53. Since Dean has said first kill it, then vote for it, take your pick, you will be right either way |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. Rahm kidnapped Dean's pet kitten!!!!! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. I think Howard Dean has come to realize the best way to improve on and get HRC passed |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. The only people still on the bus are the Republicans in congress.. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. LoL! |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. Proof that even Howard Dean's arm can be twisted. Sad. n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Smart people are abandoning you in droves because you're not being rational. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. LOL. As if I ever had an army of followers. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. It's proof that Dean knew what he was doing all along. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Your avatar supports it, too. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. A |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. There was a thread calling Franken another sell-out |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Dare I say I kind of agree |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. You rang? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Wow, now you've really exposed some crazy. Better cover it up quick. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Ad hominem will not aid your cause, good soldier. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. And ALL of the GOP supports killing the bill.. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. And the diarist said Dean gave reasons for passing the bill... |
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Citizen Kang (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Geez |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'll reserve final judgment until after conference.. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. A simple observation |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
38. He said pass it to go to reconciliation, but did not support passage if the bill doesn't |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
39. I also saw these improvements in the Manager's Amendment. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. Ah . . . what a surprise . . .. !!! |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. This stuff has been going on since the 70s. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It sounds like Dean is now SUPPORTING passage . . . did you read the latest article??? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
54. I just put the video up in DU video. What a distortion this post is. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. And a kick for viewing a video that is misrepresented. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. He clearly didn't say that- although the OP sure as hell wants him to. nt |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
57. I think that's just Barack Obama wearing a mask. |
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