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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:23 AM
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Want to know about Community Health Centers?
http://www.the-health-center.org/

http://www.chcb.org/

These have been up and running for years.



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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:38 AM
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1. I keep posting about them from Sanders statement. Here it is again:
$10 Billion More for Community Health Centers will Revolutionize Care

WASHINGTON, December 19 – A $10 billion investment in community health centers, expected to go to $14 billion when Congress completes work on health care reform legislation, was included in a final series of changes to the Senate bill unveiled today.

The provision, which would provide primary care for 25 million more Americans, was requested by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

He said the additional resources will help bring about a revolution in primary health care in America and create new or expanded health centers in an additional 10,000 communities. The provision would also provide loan repayments and scholarships through the National Health Service Corps to create an additional 20,000 primary care doctors, dentists, nurse practitioners, physician assistants and mental health professionals.

Very importantly, Sanders also said the provision would save Medicaid tens of billions of dollars by keeping patients out of emergency rooms and hospitals by providing primary care when then needed it.


Sanders has worked with House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) to include $14 billion in the House version of the legislation.

Sanders is also working with Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) to improve language already in the bill to provide waivers for states that want to provide comprehensive, affordable health care and curb rapidly-rising costs for money-making private health insurance companies. The waivers could clear the way for a state-run, single-payer system.

For the health centers, the $14 billion in the bill that the House of Representatives approved on Nov. 7 would increase the number of centers from 20 million to 45 million over the next five years.

The investment would more than pay for itself by saving Medicaid $23 billion over five years on reduced emergency room use and hospital costs, according to a study conducted by George Washington University.

The system of Federally Qualified Health Centers began four decades ago under pioneering legislation by the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy. Community health centers now provide primary health care, dental care, mental health counseling and low-cost prescription drugs for about 20 million Americans. The centers offer basic services like prenatal care, childhood immunizations and cancer screenings. Open to everyone, the centers care for patients covered by Medicaid, Medicare and private insurance as well as those who have no insurance.


Dan Hawkins, senior vice president of the National Association of Community Health Centers, testified before Congress earlier this year that the cost of care at health centers is 41 percent less than what is spent to care for patients elsewhere. The savings would grow if health centers were expanded to serve more patients, according to Hawkins.

In Vermont, eight health centers and 40 satellite offices provide primary health care to more than 100,000 patients regardless of their ability to pay. Sanders said that with the additional health care funding it was very likely that new centers would be established in Addison County, Bennington County and perhaps Windham County.

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=30b2a415-4ade-4367-af7d-4c3306e31b58
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:51 AM
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2. Yeah, this is reallly good news
I've been opposed to the Senate legislation, but this is really good news for a lot of people who are uninsured or underinsured.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:59 AM
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3. Agreed. Rec.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:59 AM
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6. That's why it drives me nuts when people say this bill will help no one. That is obviously not true.
It will help many of the people who most desperately need it. The cavalier Kill the Bill calls just seem to dismiss the needs of a lot of people.

Just my opinion.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:46 PM
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15. And it will hurt a lot of middle class people
The very poor and the very rich will benefit from this. Everyone else will see more of their wealth being transferred into the coffers of corporations.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:59 AM
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7. Whoops - dupe
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 10:08 AM by Pirate Smile
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:08 AM
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9. Wait, community health centers weren't perfect when they were first instituted?
How could democrats allow such an imperfect bill to pass?

:sarcasm:
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:40 AM
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4. Kicking.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:54 AM
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5. Still Want To Kill The Bill?
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 09:56 AM by Beetwasher
:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:02 AM
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8. whether I do or don't is now immaterial
it's a done deal. I'll hope for the best.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:16 AM
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10. Oregon(Wyden)already has a fairly good medicaid program...
in place as does many of the 'blue' states.

This bill will help the backward(red)states who have little or nothing to show for what has already been spent.

Be a shame if the good states lose their medicare if this flawed bill passes.

Single-Payer National Health Plan!

This time around, taking baby steps is sadly flawed.

As to adding all those new docs, aids, nurses, etc., what schools will open their carefully controlled enrollment?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:45 AM
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11. It's Always Been Immaterial
But that didn't stop you from posting your opinion then.

Why not answer the question?

I thought "hope" was a dirty word these days...
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:50 AM
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12. and at last medicare will pay for dental at these clinics! hooray!
nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:15 AM
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13. kick
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:44 PM
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14. Well, community health centers are better than nothing I guess
But if you've actually used them, you might have other opinions. My mother used one for four years prior to qualifying for Medicare. She was seen by NP's mostly, not always the same ones, mostly students. She hardly ever saw a Dr. She was never given access to diagnostic tests that could have really pinpointed her problems and was often discriminated by the staff for appearing to be a middle class white women-- how dare she ask for samples! She only went there while sick. There was no recourse for the attitudes she was given as she must have asked for ill health because she was a smoker. Now I know that many people really believe that but for a 61 year old woman who had smoked most of her life-- she was hooked. She has tried to quit many times but she was unable to sustain it. When our society hooks people on bad habits by marketing to them incessantly and our government sanctions it by making clearly harmful substances legal to sell OTC-- well, I'm not going to blame the target. And a professional health care provider does not make moral judgments or allow them to affect their demeanor to the patient they are treating. Well, tell that to the nun nurse practitioner at St. Thomas CHC.

Once she was able to get medicare she could get a regular doctor who set her up for tests and actually prescribed medications that can manage her chronic illness. This same physician sees her at every Dr. appt. He has brought in his PA/NP to help manage but she sees the same team every visit. There is no judgmental attitude. My complaint is the doctor's clueless office staff that sat and watched her in respiratory distress shoving a clipboard in her face and not notifying the medical staff that she was short of breath. I don't doubt the same would have happened at the CHC.

I have also had to deal with our local CHC as a home nurse and they do not return calls and forget about leaving a voice mail--the box is always full, they keep you on hold for literally over 30 minutes, ignore you when you stand at the counter to get help and have very long wait times. Their record keeping is poor as well. They do have a sliding scale. Their follow up with patients after hospital discharge is very poor-- almost a month to 6 weeks which is unacceptable. One doctor left and I had 5 patients in MD limbo-- they would not reassign until the next well MD visit so who do I report changes in condition to? Who do I call when the pt is going into CHF? Their answer is to send the pt to the ED which is what we are trying to avoid rather than having a responsible professional review the meds and make adjustments to resolve the increased fluid overload.

I can only speak for the clinics I have had experience dealing with. I guess some clinics are better than others.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:24 PM
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16. Kicking. nt
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