Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Tech anthropologist works to save dying Comanche language

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:06 AM
Original message
Tech anthropologist works to save dying Comanche language
Source: LubbockOnline
By Matthew Mcgowan | AVALANCHE-JOURNAL

The language of the Comanche people, a lifeline of its culture, is fading fast.

Its muted vowels and sapient cadence once echoed throughout the fenceless grasslands of the South Plains, but today it can muster barely a whisper.

That's why Texas Tech anthropologist Jeff Williams and a handful of other researchers have devised a plan that could help save Comanche from confinement in history books.

With a recent $215,000 two-year grant from the Administration for Native Americans, they'll shoulder the task on modern technology and a new generation of Comanche students eager to learn their ancestral tongue.

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/121809/loc_536884399.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good to know
Technology is useful for so many things - this is a great way to use it!

K & R!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. yup but aside from a scientific viewpoint is it worthwhile to keep dieing languages
especially if the people who speak them dont want to continue them or themselves are dieing out. I can see keeping a computerized version just in case we ever need to translate something, but language is something that will change and die over time...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. You have a narrow view of language
Every language carries with it its people's own history, culture, traditions and songs. So not only the language has been lost, but also a way of life. No computerized grammar book or dictionary can replace that.

And as for your statement "the people who speak them dont want to continue", did you read the article? There are young people who WANT to learn the language and elders who WANT to continue teaching it.

And furthermore, Commanche was a language that was deliberately eradicated. The Commanches were forcibly displaced from their land and their children sent to schools where it was forbidden to speak their own language. Children were beaten for speaking it.

I for one am glad that somebody is trying to save at least a piece of what was once a major part of history.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. This story was repeated all through the Americas
Native Americans weren't "disinclined" to speak their ancestral language. The U.S. government had a deliberate policy of destroying Native cultures by taking children as young as six from their parents, sending them to boarding schools far from home, putting them among children from other tribes so that their only common language was English, sometimes didn't allow them to go home for years at a time, and beat them for speaking their language.

Even when the children weren't taken to boarding schools, teachers in the local public schools would shame them into speaking only English. (The same thing happened to Latinos in the Southwest and Cajuns in Louisiana and even to European immigrants in American cities. The father of one of my graduate school friends was told by his teacher that his native Yiddish wasn't really a language, just "ignorant peddlars' jargon.")

Americans acquired their disinclination, even hostility, toward other languages through decades of these kinds of attitudes.

"You're in America! Speak English!" is a freeper bumpersticker, but it echoes what generations of children, including, ironically, Native Americans, were told by their teachers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:28 AM
Response to Original message
5. This is really great. My daughter is studying archeology/anthropology and
so wants to learn one of our "original" native languages.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:39 AM
Response to Original message
6. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 08:15 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC