Kill/Pass + Level of Enthusiasm

[rucky]

[rateyes]

1. The other adverb would be "sideways," as in, "Senator Reid,

shove this bill up your ass sideways."

[Chan790]

4. +1

I already voted for "adamantly against" but I change my vote to "sideways". I think someone in the meanwhile should go ask Senator Coburn if he needs this one read to him too...we won't have a vote before March if he says yes.

[NJmaverick]

2. I would like a better bill and I hope conference can fix it

but with people's lives at stake, I can't do anything but support it's passage. Hopefully future bills can improve things, just like it did with social security.

[Odin2005]

3. Adamantly for Killing a FASCIST bill.

A mandate without a STRONG public option and STRICT regulation of the Health Insurance Industry is FASCISM!

[Vincardog]

5. Put that option up and I will vote for it. Kill it and go to reconciliation to pass a GOOD BILL

[Edweird]

6. Nuke it from orbit.....

[Warren Stupidity]

7. the bill sucks but there will be no second bill to go to reconcilliation with

this is it. The kleptocracy has given us this moldy rotten scrap. If we don't eat it, they are not going to serve something better.

[regnaD kciN]

8. In favor, but not particularly enthusiastic...

The bill isn't all it could have been, but it seems to have been designed with reasonable benefit to the average low- and middle-income American, and with care taken to restrict the penalties involved in the mandate to relatively high-income individuals and families. (I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "pretend" mandate, but it won't seriously affect most Americans.) According to the CBO, premiums under the current proposal will be as low as those under the previous proposal (the one with a public option -- which probably tells you how weak the public option had become in previous versions).

Mostly, I'm in favor of it because, if it turns out (before mandates take effect in four years) that the current plan will be insufficient to provide affordable health care, the regulatory portions of the law will be in place, so the funding mechanisms of setting up a real public option or Medicare buy-in (including "Medicare for all") would be passable via reconciliation -- which is really not the case with this bill. Essentially, adopting this with 60 votes would mean it would only take 51 votes down the line for any of those more-sweeping reforms. So, it's a needed start, even if not all I would wish it had been from the get-go.

[Geek_Girl]

9. Without a public option and with a Mandate it needs to go down in flames

nt

[timo]

10. shameful

so much for the TRANSPARENT NEGOTIATIONS with Dr.s and nurses and insurance companies and hospital admins around a big table on c-span.
what a sack of shit this deal has turned into, flame away fuck it I am just worn thin of backdoor deals and shitty government!!

[rucky]

11. kick

[Laelth]

12. Kill the bill. It stinks.

Kill the bill.

Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth