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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:43 PM
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How the White House Misjudged the Political Landscape - FDL
How the White House Misjudged the Political Landscape
By: Robert Cruickshank Friday December 18, 2009 2:45 pm

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As progressives on and offline continue to debate the future of the health care reform bill, attention is finally shifting to the underlying factors that have gotten us into this mess in the first place: namely, the mistakes of the White House. Meteor Blades at Daily Kos asks the right question – why is it that progressives are getting blamed for this? Others reply that Obama does the best he can, and that to avoid a collapse in the 2010 elections, Democrats and progressives need to "point out all the good" that Obama has done so far.

But that isn’t enough. The fact is that Democratic electeds, the president first and foremost, have completely misunderstood American politics in 2009. I’m not talking just about the failed and senseless efforts at bipartisanship, though Obama’s underestimation of the level of control Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the teabaggers have over the Republican Party hasn’t helped.

Instead I’m talking about the inability of the White House to understand the changing nature of the American left. The late 20th century experience of a marginalized and weak left has been replaced during the 2000s by a much more powerful and popular movement. The White House’s unwillingness to treat that movement as an equal partner is damaging not only the health care bill, but the political fate of Democrats in 2010 and, potentially, 2012.

The collapse of support for the bill reveals a deeper and growing divide, an unwillingness of most Americans to embrace a flawed process. In particular, progressives – activists and voters – need a clear, signal victory in order to avoid complete 1994-style demoralization. Something big and bold, something clearly progressive that forced moderates and conservatives to concede something important, something that will give more people a reason to rally to Obama’s defense when he is in a difficult place.

Comprehensive immigration reform along the lines of the Grijalva proposal would achieve this. Repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell would achieve this (and repeal of DOMA would be a grand slam). Firing Geithner and Summers would achieve this. Breaking up some of the big banks would achieve this. And yes, a public option of some kind would have achieved this.

Instead we have a White House and a Senate Democratic leadership that still believes we live in the 1990s, where the "left" is weak and has little popular support. They’ve not understood the transformative effect of the 2000s and Bush in particular, who helped create a genuine American left with real and widespread popular support for the first time in 40 years.

The White House does not view progressives as equal partners, as people who have legitimate concerns and priorities that need to be included in any deal. They still take the Clintonian view that the "left" can be appeased either through a few nice words in a speech, and if that fails, can be crammed down by being told they’re wreckers, being told this is the best progressives can get, being told that progressives are irrelevant (even while the WH’s defensive actions show they’re anything but irrelevant).

The White House hasn’t yet grasped that some basic and timeless rules of politics still apply: that you have to deliver something to your supporters to keep them on board. Something that excites them, something that gets them motivated. Ever since 1993 Democratic presidential Administrations have assumed those rules are in abeyance, where supporters will stay on board out of fear of Republicans, unwilling to act on their beliefs or frustrations out of an internalized belief that America is a conservative place hostile to progressive values.

The Bush years destroyed those internalized frustrations. Congressional Democratic support for the Iraq War destroyed what existed of progressive acceptance of that Clintonite strategy, and freed the left to actually feel confident in asserting its own values regardless of what the Democratic leadership says, because any trust in that leadership was destroyed in 2002. Obama understood this out of necessity during the primary, when he had to embrace this to defeat Hillary Clinton. But once that was achieved, he went right back to the old Bill Clinton strategy of appeasing the center-right and assuming progressives would simply go along with it – and once elected, Obama surrounded himself with old Clinton hands who espoused the same basic view of politics.

There were a number of instances in 2009 that showed Obama doesn’t quite grasp political realities, and the snowballing collapse of health care reform is just one element of that misunderstanding.

Until he sees progressives as genuine partners, Obama will face declining political fortunes. That’s his problem, something he and his team should and eventually will address. For our part, progressives should concern ourselves with how to further build up our own institutions and power, instead of wasting time trying to prop up a weak president who views us and our views and our work with contempt.

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Link: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/19675

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:47 PM
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1. They still do not realise....hell hath no fury like a base scorned.
And I am feeling mighty scorned..
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:01 PM
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8. Witness Blair's popularity.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:48 PM
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2. 'an unwillingness of most Americans to embrace a flawed process' AMEN
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:50 PM
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3. knr
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:54 PM
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4. K&R
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:56 PM
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5. Very well said!
"For our part, progressives should concern ourselves with how to further build up our own institutions and power, instead of wasting time trying to prop up a weak president who views us and our views and our work with contempt."

:applause:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:59 PM
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6. One part of the snipette understates the problem
"Comprehensive immigration reform along the lines of the Grijalva proposal would achieve this. Repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell would achieve this (and repeal of DOMA would be a grand slam). Firing Geithner and Summers would achieve this. Breaking up some of the big banks would achieve this. And yes, a public option of some kind would have achieved this"

Not really, it would take all of those things to equal the failure of the Health Care Insurance fiasco
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:02 AM
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18. I agree. That is weak. It would take a lot more than that to
convince me that they are real Democrats. In fact, if they start passing legislation like that now, I would know it was a bribe, and I would also wonder how come they can use their power when it's for their benefit when all along they told us they didn't have enough.

I think it's too late now to win people back. Trust has been broken and that is usually the end of any relationship. The truth is they are just politicians, they can and should be replaced. I like his last sentence though.

We should now refocus and start building something out of all of this wreckage. Wasting any more time on them would be foolish. We have work to do and if this bill passes, we will certainly need strong progressives and independents in Congress to take it down and replace it with what it should have been, a real Universal Health Care system for all Americans. That should be our goal.

Rahm told us to go to hell. I am taking his his advice.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:59 PM
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7. "who views us and our views and our work with contempt" - excellent
article and that statement really reflects how so many of us feel.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:08 PM
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9. Recommend
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:19 PM
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10. Yes, the bitterness can reach such a level that people will, either formally or
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 02:32 PM by Joe Chi Minh
effectively vote for the right, if incumbent, putative progressive renegue on their promises beyond all measure.

The pattern of the political ministrations emanating from the White House suggests that the word, 'audacity', which has some strangely disparate connotations, was misconstrued by Obama's supporters, and that what Obama's electioneering message really implied was the negative connotaton: 'That's what comes of having the bare-faced audacity to hope! That'll larn you!'

Let's cling to the hope Obama sees the 'writing on the wall' re his base, and ensures that the worst features of the proposed bill are removed, and substantive, purposefully progressive ones inserted. He is the Republicans' last hope. They would surely finish off the country good and proper, as our Tories would. Is that what it would take - a waste-land - for the possibility of a new start that would resolutely marginalize the military-industrial-media complex, and introduce the novel concept of 'elections' (as opposed to Tammany Hall corruption, finally consummated in outright federal charades)?

Only extreme bitterness could persuade the public to allow them back in power. I suppose it all depends on the quality of Obama's ambition: is it limited to the kind of success the ultra-rich puppeters can afford him, as they did for Blair and Thatcher? Or is it to be one of the great, iconic figures of US and world politics?

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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:58 PM
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11. Liberals are the fastest growing segment of the electorate
Liberals (economically and socially progressive) are one of 9 political typologies identified by Pew, and the fastest growing. We went from maybe 10% of the electorate to 19% from 1999-2005. I'm sure there was even more growth from 2005-2009.

We also have higher turnout than the general electorate, which is why despite only being 17% of the public we make up 19% of voters (again, in 2005. It is probably higher in 2009).


http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=949

BASIC DESCRIPTION: This group has nearly doubled in proportion since 1999. Liberal Democrats now comprise the largest share of Democrats. They are the most opposed to an assertive foreign policy, the most secular, and take the most liberal views on social issues such as homosexuality, abortion, and censorship. They differ from other Democratic groups in that they are strongly pro-environment and pro-immigration.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:39 AM
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23. That's a good description of liberal.
Though I have problems with "They differ from other Democratic groups in that they are strongly pro-environment and pro-immigration."

I can't see *anything* I agree with the right wing dems on anymore. They don't want gay rights, womens' rights, and they seem to think the poor deserve to stay poor. Censorship is fine, torture is dandy, war is nifty, and the only way to fix the economy is through tax cuts. They seem to think Medicare and Medicaid are unimportant, public schools are a waste of money, unions are part of the problem, and the middle class should shoulder the entire burden of taxes.

So what the hell do liberals agree with conservadems on anymore, other than "Republicans suck."? Especially since most of them won't even go that far.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 04:02 PM
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12. K & R nt
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 05:28 PM
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13. I think Obama's team has fundamentally miscalculated the power of the Internet to unify
Maybe in their obvious contempt for Howard Dean they overlooked or misunderstood his effectiveness of harnessing the Internet in the political process. They miscalculated because this generation of activists know nothing other than the Internet as a focal point for their communication efforts.

I have no doubt that Obama and the Democrats will suffer a much greater backlash than they realize. It will come from frustrating supporters into apathy or more dangerously - active opposition of a bloc that used to be their allies.

This is a whole new world in regard to the demographics of the electorate, access to unfiltered information, the power of human online networks and a host of other novel political realities.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:26 PM
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15. The internet has certainly blocked their attempt to "control the message".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7274861

We have the Video.
The TRUTH cannot be denied or rewritten.

Here is an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZG8Zq8V54k
Where is THIS Obama today?



Its ironic that Obama used the Internet to help get elected.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:35 AM
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22. In that video - who was that guy?!? I want him to be my President.
I really do.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:33 AM
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20. excellent post.
Obama effectively used the Dean netroots ideas in his election campaign, but those who are setting policy in the party are dinosaurs... I do not mean that as "democrat in name only," but dinosaurs whose gerrymandered districts around the U.S. do not reflect the true will of the people on issues of financial concern, especially, from left, right and middle.

The democrats lose independents by their actions, too.

Americans do not want socialism for the rich and feudalism for everyone else.

That's what BOTH parties are offering.

And, the truth of the matter is, if Bush had put forth a program that allowed private industry to control a public health with no cost controls, many democrats would be screaming "fascism."

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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:13 PM
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31. "Socialism for the rich; feudalism for everyone else"
Nicely put. I wish I had it on a bumper sticker.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 07:43 PM
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14. K&R
And we are mad as hell and not taking it lying down any more. They are going to hear from us and the message will be loud and clear: "You already TOOK all our money. Don't be asking for more for your campagin."
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:45 PM
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16. K&R.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:48 PM
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17. K&R
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:12 AM
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19. K&R N/T
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 03:00 AM
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21. But they seemed to understand it during the campaign . . .
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:45 AM
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25. Isn't that the truth! I seem to remember Obama responding to every shift
of the electorate, sometimes at astonishing speed. That's why I can't buy an excuse that he doesn't understand what's going on.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:41 AM
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24. If anything this underestimates what Obama needed/needs to do
I am not comfortable having to say this, but repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell does not rise to the level of the type of signal this White House needs to send. That's not because I don't care about that issue, or that the issue isn't important, it's because it's too frigging easy for the White House to do. It is barely controversial if at all, Liz Cheney won't even attack Obama over it, it's a 90's battle and the front line has moved on to Gay marriages. Domestic partnerships are now a relatively conservative position and ending Don't Ask Don't Tell is flat out mainstream. For all practical purposes Obama can accomplish it with a stroke of a pen and not risk a sleepless moment over filibuster threats. Given all of that the fact that it hasn't already been done is infuriating. Had Obama suspended Don't Ask Don't Tell shortly after taking office, THAT would have sent a somewhat meaningful signal. When he finally does it, and he eventually will, it will be a token gesture to the left that will certainly have meaning for those effected but will risk little if any political capital from Obama. I will not be impressed and it will not restore any sense of loyalty I once felt toward this White House.

The economy and health care reform were the big tests of Obama's willingness to push for progressive reforms.
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quark219 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:32 PM
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26. 99% of the value of this piece lies in the final sentence. N/T
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:43 PM
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29. Also disagree . . .
Until he sees progressives as genuine partners, Obama will face declining political fortunes. That’s his problem, something he and his team should and eventually will address. For our part, progressives should concern ourselves with how to further build up our own institutions and power, instead of wasting time trying to prop up a weak president who views us and our views and our work with contempt.


Seeing Obama as anything but someone pre-bribed and pre-owned by corporations, I think is

a mistake -- and naive.

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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:34 PM
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27. TLDR (nt)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:41 PM
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28. I don't think I agree . . . I think they're depending upon this being fait accompli . . .
a bullying thru by corporate/fascism.

Believe me, they know what is going on -- they know the reality --

They weren't counting on DEAN however waking up the public --

They hope we're asleep -- and they hope we'll be compliant.



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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:45 PM
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30. Too late to rec, but WOW, what a great piece. Thanks for posting it here.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:56 AM
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32. kick n/t
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