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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:10 PM Original message |
Ever wonder why Howard Dean was never going to get anywhere near the Oval Office? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Another way of saying we don't have a country anymore. (Or maybe ever) |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I wouldn't go that far. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
59. Everything is at peak...these are the defining moments,Corporatocracy vs democracy |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #59 |
125. Unfortunately, because of our President, |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #125 |
157. Unfortunately, because of our President, |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
135. Something slightly innacurate in your OP |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. They may be small in absolute terms |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
129. Correct. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #129 |
145. off-topic |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Thank you! |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. For the record, by the way: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Oh, yeh, the unrecs start early. |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
62. WONDER IF THE UNREC WAS A GOOD IDEA |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
171. I dont think they are a factor. Doesnt hurt the great posts like this one. nt |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. We thank him for his voice. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Tell him you met a woman on the Internet |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
133. Tell him you met TWO women on the Internet ... |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. I had better be specific |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:15 PM Original message |
Please let him know how much we appreciate what he is doing. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
167. Please let him know how much we appreciate what he is doing. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. I have, and his attention has been directed to more than one DU thread |
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iceman66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. The media destroyed him after the 'scream'. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'm all too afraid you're spot on. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes, if the media hadn't forced him to scream after he LOST a primary he should have WON |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Howard will be the first to tell you "we didn't know what we were doing" in the campaign |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. He was a bit of a wild-card right from the beginning |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. That, actually is a very good question |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
126. Let him know that that some of us have got his back. |
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iceman66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I didn't think he was ready to be President at the time either, |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Dean brought in folks of all age groups ..and so did Kucinich back |
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iceman66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
106. You make some very good points, |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. I'm hoping you're correct about that |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #117 |
132. Unless he starts firing a lot |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #106 |
140. I'm not ready to write off Obama either. He needs YOUR support - now more than ever. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
172. Well what is he waiting for. He could start at any time showing us that he supports us over big |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
116. Yep, he was a great head of the DNC |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Dean might not be Presidential Material...but he is and has remained a FORCE... |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
69. Wonderful idea. A coalition. A populous voting bloc. A force to be reckoned with. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I don't think so, and here's why |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. What about being the head of a block of activists? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #88 |
119. I agree - we need an organizing force |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #119 |
164. I've going to keep advocating it in any relevant post I write |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #164 |
179. We need a "Rally Round" and Dean is obviously a good person to do it around. |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. I think that to do what we need to do - take back the government |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
49. He was the first one to really organize using the internet |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
84. True . . . and that idea has since by followed by others -- Obama raised $800 million++++ |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. The media used a directional microphone. A friend of mine was IN that room... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. OK, so let's blame the media for the microphone, he still lost the NH primary |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
55. Dean was/ still is the man! |
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Username 12 (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
80. The media didn't have to break Obama |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. That has been explained thousands of times. The people who bring up the "self-destructing scream" |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. That's because they're five buck an hour DLC hogwash dispensers. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. I wholeheartedly agree |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
121. He had already lost his momentum |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
85. Agree . . . we might also say that Kerry "self-destructed" as a military coward . ..!!! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
155. I was in that room |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
159. ABC actually REPORTED THAT and showed home video from member in crowd to prove it |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Well, if he was speaking, you might have a point. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. The so called "scream" didn't happen the way you think it did |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
63. Once again you prove that your moniker is just absolutely PERFECT, Mr. Moran. |
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Terra Alta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
68. The "scream" was blown way out of proportion. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
114. The point is, he had already lost momentum before the stupid "scream" incident |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
83. There was no "scream" . . . the amplification was "edited" -- |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
91. *yawn* you got anything besides distortion and bs ? |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
144. Cable and network showed the scream 633 times in four days |
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Autumn Colors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. No, they did it after what he said on Hardball |
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iceman66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. That makes a lot of sense. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. Yes, losing the primary had no bearing on his not winning |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
60. John Kerry submitted legislation that would have done so the year before |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
161. Look pal, there was no scream, ABC even reported exactly what happened |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #161 |
178. I agree that the "scream" was distorted, but that does not change |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. My "view" is only to correct the falsehood about the "scream" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
86. THAT needs to keep being repeated . . . especially because those who |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
160. This is exactly right. And I watched him say that and marked the time his campaign died. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
76. The M$M created the scream and then used it to destroy his candidacy. n/t |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
124. yep nt |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. +1 |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. Excellent post. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Dean's a good guy |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
73. . |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. Obama's arm is not around Howard Dean..fighting for us... |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. change is not on the agenda of the status quo. never has been. never will be. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
87. Correct . . . there is only one direction TPB will move in -- towards the right . . . |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm sure people said the same shit about Lincoln.... |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Saw Dean on MSNBC yesterday... he really made sense... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
89. That's only because Dean is "irrational," "unstable," and probably "hysterical" . . . ???? |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. It is such a sham, Dean and the Democratic wing of the Democratic party worked tirelessly |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Proudly seconding what Dragonfli just said. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
72. Dragonfli!! |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #72 |
111. You rock too, Swamp Rat...that picture says it all! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
90. Nice post --- !! The DLC is committed to moving the party to the right . . . |
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PuraVidaDreamin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
100. This ones for you Dragonfli |
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Nay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
103. Yeah, what Dragonfli said!! |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
123. Yes! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
143. Couldn't agree More |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
147. DING! DING! DING! We have a winna! |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. ... because Dean threatened to bring the people into the White House and had |
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Autumn Colors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. How about Chairman of a third party ??? |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Don't count on it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
92. Keep in mind that the two party/one wing system has a lock down on |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Both parties will split - the corporate Center-Right runs both of them now - the activists have |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
136. Democrats always prided themselves on not being robots as GOP wants .... |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. I always enjoy reading what Howard has to say. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. There was a concerted effort by some in the "D" party to get rid of Dean.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
95. Also would mention that those most easily convinced are watching the idiot box . . . |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's both wonderful to read this from someone authentically close to him |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. They made him chairman to prevent him from running in 2008 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. Take poor Howard off that cross |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh good grief. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. THAT ONE just went on ignore |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
74. vapid |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
127. Horse manure. |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R nt |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. He will never be irrelevant as far as I am concerned. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
77. When a friend first introduced us way back when |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. We need 4 parties |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. The NEW Progressive Party could use THIS as their platform: |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
97. +++1 |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
102. Yes! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
98. We need to expose the GOP/FUNDI movement for the farce it is . .. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
36. ever wonder why obama tried like hell to keep burris out of washington |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. K & R |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
39. k&r |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thank you for your insight, DFW |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
46. He's an unelected people, after all. Hahahahaha!!!! Tweety will die with that as his meme. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. Dean is a good man. The MSM is using him for some purpose, to hide something |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. Rahm hates him. n/t |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Which shows Obama made a crappy choice for Chief of Staff. The deals the WH does to secure billions |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I think Obama made a strategic choice for Chief of Staff |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:51 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. yep - for better or worse - it seems for worse so far, but, he knows Rahm, and I'm hoping that |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #67 |
128. For worse as of right now, or so it seems. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. I admire Dean a great deal and all the more for his staned up position now |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
57. Rahm Emmanuel hates Howard Dean, but more importantly, finds the entire Left "irrelevant" |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
58. Dean is something like the Huey Long of our day without the corruption |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
65. 150th Rec. Hooray. Great post, DFW. |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
66. no. its really much more simple than that... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. but you enjoyed it and that is what counts |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
94. another "deep thinker" |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
78. Howard Dean is a threat to many Washington insiders. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
81. The MSM put him out to pasture. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
82. Shall we just crucify him now, so you will be relieved? n/t |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
93. As much as I love his honesty over this "health care" bill - |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:29 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. So he got carried away. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. There was no "scream" . .. the tape was manipulated .. . |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #93 |
131. What a shrill little post. There was no "scream." There was a blatant manipulation of the audio |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:23 PM Original message |
And isn't t that what matters? Honesty on vitally critical policy? Or is all about "Brand"? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
142. deleted dupe |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
104. K & R |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
105. 3 words answer your initial question |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. The best Christmas present? |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #105 |
112. The Howard-Rahm thing is years old, and is a DNC vs. DCCC thing |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
168. I whole-heartedly concur |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
108. I knew it when he was crucified in 04. |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
109. Dean got me to "believe" once again, when I, as an expatriate |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Here's a fun anecdote about what you call "Dean's initial rise in early 2003." |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. LOVE your story! Thanks. n/t |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
110. Very well said... |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
118. DFW @ 112 is spot on... |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. There was a reason I left it out |
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N_E_1 for Tennis (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
122. A Scream? !! .... |
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zinnisking (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
130. Dean was the first politician I gave money to |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
134. I lost faith in Howard Dean after he toyed with my vote. |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
137. I couldn't agree more, DFW, so what are we going to do |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. I believe the election of 2004 was going to be stolen no matter who our nominee was |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Probably true that it would have been stolen anyway, but they |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
148. No Real Progressive Need Apply |
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jonathan_seer (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. The reason for Dean's WH Exile is Rahm, who hates Dean 4 being right about the 50state strategy |
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cadaverdog (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #152 |
162. I agree with everything you say, and furthermore, I beleve |
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yourout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
150. Great thread. |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
151. I think its time for a social democratic party in the USA. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
153. I am and forever will be a Deaniac....If he ever throws his hat in the |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #153 |
165. Me too, I was on board with him back in the grassroots day. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
154. Thank goodness for the voices of reason that still scream out... |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
156. Simple--Obama is not a liberal |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
158. Copy and pasted from where? |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Copied and pasted?? You gotta be kidding. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #174 |
182. You formatting indicates its been pasted into the browser. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #182 |
184. I wouldn't even know how to do that |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #184 |
188. Okay cool, I apologize if it sounded accusatory. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
163. Maybe the country and Democrats will be so mad by 2012 that it will be different. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
166. I know this is a minuscule minority opinion |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. K&R |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:39 AM Response to Reply #166 |
186. Sorry about the late reply to this. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
170. Kicked and recommended. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #170 |
176. It was composed at haste, reflected at leisure |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
175. Dean has become the de facto "loyal opposition" |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. It's not where he wanted to be |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
183. too late to recommend. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. That's not important |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
187. Howard blew his shot at the presidency on Chris Mathews show. |
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