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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:21 PM Original message |
Don't Do It Obama |
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DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Once he got our votes that was it for the left/progressives |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Obama pushed our backs against The Wall when he did this: |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. You know, I almost never put people on ignore. But I'm making an exception in this case. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. LOL! |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. +1 (nt) |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
97. Obviously, "Ignored" is a bit unclear on the concept of an ignore list |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. He has already done it. And he will pay the price. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. "And he will pay the price." NOT! n/t |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. "We are many?????" Let me stay the fuck away from YOU!! n/t |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's mighty obvious by now that Obama is here to carry on the Bush legacy |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Sing it. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I still feel he is far far better than Bush |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Then we are destined to live and die in an America that none of us will recognize. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Perhaps, but I would rather consider this a down within a series of ups and downs |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. At this point I think Obama is a Trojan Horse |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. 'hand-picked' by Hillary perhaps? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Hand picked by the PTB . Same ones that would have been fine with Hillary in the White House |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Oh, you'd start talking about an incoming black hole, |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
88. And I think they liked what they probably knew as the "vulnerable" John Edwards as our choice! |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. If you insist of thinking of Obama as a Republican |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Wacko it is, then. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. For the record I concede that sometimes whacko is correct :) n/t |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Fair enough. |
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rusty fender (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Obama is not a leader, he is not a great man; |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. Tom, what FiveGoodMen is saying is not whacko if you consider the way the game is played |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Not whacko at all on the Meta level |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. It WAS a grand marketing coup...Brand Obama. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. That above everything causes me the most pain. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Please Explain How. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Supreme Court, Energy Policy, Environmental Policy, thousands of sundry appointments etc. |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
96. Better than Bush? |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Yes, he is protecting them |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. We are not alone in that belief either, the entire world is starting to feel that way. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't think Obama had to do or say anything. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
81. what mob is that? |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. So, can we the people pressure Obama as effectively as Corporate America, the MIC and the Bushies? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes, having Rahm give us the finger and a dare isn't advisable right now. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. They will suffer the after effects of resulting estrangement for years to come |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. We have The Video. |
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Wardoc (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Agreed! They not only punk us out now, but they mock and high five each other while doing it... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Just sayin.... |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Good advice. I hope it reaches the right ears. n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Oh. A "base" that's ready to bolt at the first sign of difficulty. What a base, what a base. n/t |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. First sign? nonsense |
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Wardoc (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. First sign?!?!?! AYFKM?????? Just how many times would be your threshold before saying "too much"? |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. First sign? Shirley, you jest. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. First sign?? Are you joking? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. First Sign?......lets do a quick review: |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Were you a prosecutor in your former life? |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
82. no, he bolted from the base |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Karl Rove knew one thing. You don't piss off your core, your activists. |
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Wardoc (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Agreed, but Rove isn't dumb. Axelrod, however, is a total moron. Rove would never mock Rush. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. He is not out friend. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Don't do it, Obama? He's already done it. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Clinton made mid course corrections when his political survival depended on it |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. David Zepher |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Here |
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mddem9850 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. truly frustrating |
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waronbanks (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
33. Obama is a corporate whore |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
34. theories |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. For his first year |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. #1...Tool of the Corporate Interests with GREAT Marketing. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
78. or scariest of all perhaps; theory # 4...Bill Hicks: "any questions?" |
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xkenx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
37. It's time for Clark '12 or Dean '12 |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Not Clark |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Let's not start causing our own splits now over hypothetical scenarios |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Did you hear the one about the guy that tried to shit in the woods after crossing the road ...... |
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xkenx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Sorry, Wes Clark was/is nobody's tool |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. homework |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. I have at least 500 posts I've made here I can reference in reply |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. saying the truth isn't "discrediting" |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Start a seperate OP on your concerns and I would gladly debate you |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. Oh come on. If you want to see someone who has an agenda from right when primary 2004 was heating up |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. So? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. xkenx didn't start a debate about Clark, he started a threadjack about Clark |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. An expression of support for Dean or Clark |
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xkenx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Read my post #86 |
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xkenx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Someone writing an article doesn't make it so. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Dean '12 in the Primaries... Maybe Sanders/Dean or Dean/Sanders '12 in general election... |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Go ahead, the past 8 years were so good to us all. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. If the party in charge just plays a "football game" instead of REAL change, we're still "condemned"! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
47. Oh, he scores points with the RW and corporatists by talking tough to us |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I think you are right, and I think that is a very dangerous & ultimately self defeating strategy n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I think so, too. But Rahm thinks those campaign contributions will more than offset the anger of the |
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xkenx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Rahm is lost |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yes, Rahm thought Dean's strategy was 'fucking stupid' and has been pissed ever since it worked |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Dean |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I think it's the only choice we have nt |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
60. He's already done it. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Pretty much, yes |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. That's the catch. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. About the only thing he can do now to recover is to push through public campaign financing |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. Add Duncan to the list of people to fire, and I'm there. nt |
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Billsmile (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. Full Spectrum Of The Democratic Party |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. I think amongst informed democrats you are right... |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
83. I remember back in ~8/07 saying he was "a tool in the making" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 07:12 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. Everyone needs to turn their BS meters up much higher !!! |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
89. Sorry he's just not that into us |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
98. You're being told you are powerless in the face of corporatism/fascism . . . |
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SharksBreath (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
101. We are not Republicans. |
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