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FlaGatorJD Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:02 PM
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Anger on the left and right: What's next and what should Obama do now?
I'm baffled that I couldn't be angrier with the Obama administration and Congress,
when I, as many of you did, worked my ass off to get them elected. At the same time,
if you listen to conservatives, full-blown socialism is right around the corner, and
their job is to stop anything Obama is trying to do. So if the right thinks it should
stop the government at all costs from proceding on anything, and the left is feeling that
this health care reform is a sham, among other things, where does it leave us?

While I still contend that supporting the Democratic party is better than any current
alternative, I'm finding it harder and harder every day. Additionally, the two-party system
is so well-entrenched that anyone expecting any change soon will also be staying up late
on the 24th hoping to catch a glimpse of the big fat guy coming down the chimney!
Perhaps they're the smart ones, because at least they have more hope than I have right now.

IMHO, I believe that Obama needs to schedule a fireside chat as soon as he returns from Copenhagen.
He needs to tell his base that he made a mistake by not getting involved enough in the health care reform matters,
and that he's gonna spend every waking moment fixing it. He's gonna make whatever personnel changes are necessary
next week, including removing Rahm, if that's what need to be done, and will put pressure on the Democrats in Congress to
get their shit together too. Joe Lieberman should be tarred and feathered at minimum! It's sad that we gave him any
power whatsoever. Reid is woefully inept, and must go.

:mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr::mad: :grr: :mad: :grr:
I'm am so pissed off I can hardly think, and I want my President who I believed would help matters to
tell us again: "Chill out, I got this" and to step up to the plate and take charge. If not now, when?






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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:07 PM
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1. The anger needs to be turned into something constructive because....
"Anyone who is “betrayed by their naiveté” should feel doubly ridiculous for thinking the change they voted for would come overnight. Status quo is not “kicked out of the door” like a weak, stray cat. Status quo has to be rallied against, systems have to be put in place to combat it, people have to put in work. Status quo will remain the “status quo” if people are too lazy to stick around for the entire fight."

I'm quoting a blogger over at FreshXpress.com,
and it is a view that I subscribe to.
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FlaGatorJD Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:38 PM
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5. Totally agree . . . . .
but I'm afraid if Obama doesn't speak soon directly to the progressive group that got him elected,
we will lose the momentum gained in the last elections. He's not going to please all of them, for
instance the people in the anti-war at all costs camp, but even some of the more moderate folks are
growing tired waiting for him to take some strong stances. I, for one, am disappointed in his
approach to health care reform. I wanted him to take an upfront, hands-on approach to getting some
actual reform. As it looks right now, the insurance industry we'll be celebrating, while the public is suffering.

If the Change is really coming, where can we derive our Hope?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:11 PM
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2. Both the left AND the right are actually fighting the same thing
The increasing blurring between the public's interests and the corporate interests.

While the right frames it as "a government takeover of business" the left frames it as "a corporate takeover of government", but the final result means the same thing.

A Mussolini style Fascism that puts control over the citizens into the hands of business interests, reinforced with the power of government.

If the two sides ever come to understand they both have the same enemies our government would collapse.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:14 PM
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3. Propose stronger Financial Reforms and yell at the Banks everyday in everyway nt.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:37 PM
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4. Work on Stimulus II.
Drop health care, blame the R's for obstruction, and get back to work on the one thing he managed to do quite well. Stimulus I was a great achievement. I'd like to see another one--one that includes hundreds of thousands of new Federal jobs.

:dem:

-Laelth
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FlaGatorJD Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:45 PM
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7. I support Stimulus II as well
My choice of projects would be alternative energy and transportation projects.
Better rails and trains where we have them, more where we don't, and perhaps
a high-speed rail system, which incorporates the auto-train concept, for the entire east coast.

Additionally, and bicycle and pedestrian projects that would get more people out of their cars should be a priority.

When Jeb "Bubba" Bush was governor of Florida, we voted for a high-speed rail system.
Jeb decided we didn't need it. Now, 10 years later, and 10 years costlier, we're
looking at it again.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:39 PM
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6. Dance with the ones who brung 'im.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:42 PM
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8. Appease the right, of course.
When has he ever done anything else?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:44 PM
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9. Your fundamental misunderstanding is that Obama does not feel he made a mistake.
This health care bill is what he wanted all along; he will not "fix" it because in his mind, there is nothing to fix.
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FlaGatorJD Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:55 AM
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11. Although I respect your opinion, I beg to differ.
For those who never had faith, or have lost it when it comes to Obama, I think
you either didn't get him, or you've given up too soon; and if you think he doesn't feel he made a mistake,
perhaps hearing from 10,000 or so DUers may give him pause for consideration.

Sure, he's screwed up a couple times. I'll give you that. But who doesn't at a new job?

You can throw in the towel now, and maybe we'll have the joy of saying Presdident Palin next time,
or you can try to do something about it.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:54 PM
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10. Stay in the middle. The captain always goes down with the ship.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:55 AM
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12. He needs to pick a fucking side
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FlaGatorJD Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:55 PM
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13. Totally agree . . . . .
He appears to be trying to please all the people all the time and he's pleasing no one.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:03 PM
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14. He appears to be pleasing the right
and fooling the left (i.e. his administration was more upset with Dean than Lieberman). The teabaggers aren't pleased because they are ideologues. Their brains stop working when they hear the word socialism.
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