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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:01 PM
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From the beginning, I thought the individual mandate to buy health insurance was a mistake
Although health insurance is un affordable today, most people make an effort to buy insurance. If people are getting a subsidy to buy insurance, the number of people getting insurance will increase.

The individual mandate created a talking point that health care reform was heavy handed and a government take over. The individual mandate was more trouble than it was worth.

Now that there is no alternative to private health insurance i.e. the public option, the individual mandate definitely needs to go.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:04 PM
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1. Second that with no alternative to private health insurance the individual mandate needs to go
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:05 PM
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2. but the insurance lobbies loves that provision, therefore it will not go
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:12 PM
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3. The parasitic insurance companies need to go.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:15 PM
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4. agreed. we need socialized medicine... no need for insurance.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:16 PM
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5. Obama himself made great political hay of Hillary's support for a mandate.
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:19 PM
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6. He should have stuck to his original words on it instead of shifting to the current mess
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:20 PM
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7. Unless there is a truly-universal system like sing;e-payer, a mandate is essential.
Of course, in the mess the Senate has now made of HCR, it IS an onerous burden without many benefits to outweigh it.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:24 PM
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8. It's like forcing people to pay for Police and Fire protection, then..
.. taking away the protection from the people required to pay for it.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:26 PM
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9. While an Individual Mandate Will Certainly Cause Problems,
you pretty much have to have one if insurance companies can't use preexisting conditions to disqualify customers. Otherwise, people can just stay uninsured until they get seriously ill.

One way of looking at the individual mandate is that it spreads the costs out over a person's lifetime. Younger people as a whole need to put more in in their healthier years so the system can afford to pay out later in their lives.

There are problems with all of these approaches. It really demostrates why anything short of single payer is bound to be unsatisfactory.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:36 PM
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10. Obama campaigned against it
as I recall. Wonder what could have changed his mind?
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