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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 08:57 AM
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Ted Olson-- possible replacement for Gonzalez?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/20/gonzales/

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Several other officials said Republicans have begun discussing a possible replacement.

One name that consistently comes up is Ted Olson, former solicitor general. Olson is seen as having the experience, reputation and credibility needed to steer the department for the next year and a half, through the end of Bush's term.

However, officials note that Bush has been a longtime defender of Gonzales, whom he hired as his general counsel in 1994 when he was elected Texas governor.

He may not be willing to give in to congressional demands to remove him, unless he becomes convinced that keeping Gonzales will hinder his agenda, they said.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 08:58 AM
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1. He is more dangerous than gonzo.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:04 AM
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2. No way in HELL would the Senate confirm Ted Olson! HE is partly responsible for putting the psycho
in Al Gore's WH. NO FREAKIN' WAY would Leahy, Kennedy, Biden, Kohl, Feinstein, Feingold, Schumer, Durbin, Cardin and Whitehouse EVER let that nomination out of committee. No way.








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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:06 AM
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4. The Senate would
confirm Ted Olson in a hurry. I am not, of course, suggesting that is a good thing. But there is zero chance that if he is nominated, that he would not be confirmed by a large margin.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:15 AM
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7. WHY? He's worse than Gonzo! They would be CRAZY to do that. Why would they confirm him? n/t
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:20 AM
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10. Does it really matter? Bush will simply give him a recess appointment.
if the nomination dies in committee.

:argh:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:24 AM
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15. Attorney General is member of the Cabinet...
I am not sure this position could be recess appointed. Even if it could, it would start WWIII, I think.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:24 AM
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16. It should be the Senate's RESPONSIBILITY to stay in session ANYTIME during which the seat is empty.
Don't LET HIM make a recess appointment.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:22 AM
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13. They'd quickly confirm because:
1. He's immensely qualified; 2. He is competent; 3. We've seen time and time again that when Congress gains one seeming "gain" against Bush* they feel the need to show the willingness to reward that concession with one of their own; 4. Related to the latter, our Dems will be intent on showing the media and the public that they are "working" to move ahead.

I detest Olson, too, but I would strongly predict this is how it would play out.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:25 AM
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17. That depresses me.
:cry:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:30 AM
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20. I fully understand...
But, it continues to be a chess game until (if) the time comes that impeachment is so demanded by the public that the administration becomes 100% marginalized.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:30 AM
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21. The first two
reasons are exactly why he would be confirmed. Again, I think he would be one of the more dangerous people to have in office at a time when democrats may be going to the federal courts to contest some issues of significance with this administration.

To oppose him, one needs a good reason. I note that in the post saying his (potential) nomination would never get out of committee, the 2000 election was brought up. I think it's important to watch the first 5 minutes of Michael Moore's classic movie, and consider the actions of the democratic senators. Now tell me which one would consider opposing Olson based on that episode in our nation's history.

He would be confirmed by a very large margin.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:22 AM
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14. At least in part because he's a 9/11 martyr. ("Poor Ted. Barbara was killed.")
He's generally regarded as highly partisan but intelligent and outspoken. I regard him as being as far to the right as Cheney if not more so - and an ideological zealot
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:29 AM
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19. 911 martyr, my ass.
I'm still not convinced she's actually dead (OK, I won't go there!:)). At any rate, I agree with you that he's an ideological ZEALOT. He's the LAST person that should be confirmed as AG.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:32 AM
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22. Unlike either of
Bush's first two AGs, Olson is considered as having a capable legal mind.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:47 AM
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24. A capable legal mind, but a dangerous Ideologue.
IMCPO, of course.;)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:06 AM
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30. Yes, you are correct.
He is far more capable than either of the first two. It is a curious situation. It is important to keep the spotlight on what Gonzales did, yet the administration has the opportunity to counter with Olson. But I suspect he and his ilk will be involved, either from the sidelines or from the more direct position, as the Congress begins to move towards more serious confrontations with this president.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:12 AM
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31. Yeah, and she CALLED HIM COLLECT! Bwahahahaha!
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:16 AM by WinkyDink
“She had trouble getting through, because she wasn’t using her cell phone – she was using the phone in the passengers’ seats,” said Mr Olson. “I guess she didn’t have her purse, because she was calling collect, and she was trying to get through to the Department of Justice, which is never very easy.” … “She wanted to know ‘What can I tell the pilot? What can I do? How can I stop this?’ ”

http://www.vialls.com/lies911/lies.htm

That whole middle section? Classic needless "extra info" from a lying psychopath.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:19 AM
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9. Agree
Senate would absolutely confirm Olson quickly...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:04 AM
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3. Right now
Gonzales is serving as the White House's lightening rod. Republican administrations generally have one in good times, as well as bad. One example of this is old James Watt, from the Reagan era. It requires a shift in the "up vs down" before an administration will trade a lightening rod in, much like a used car.

Many informed sources have suggested that Ted Olson will be the most likely person to replace Gonzales. As we saw with the Baker Iraq group, however, the "good old boys" can't openly tell George W. Bush what to do. They have to approach this in a manner where the dim wit will believe it is his idea. In the mean time, the conflicts involving Gonzales may do far more serious damage to the administration among repulicans, that the president realizes.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:58 AM
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26. Interesting how it went from Rumsfeld to Gonzales. After that, I wonder who it'll be.
Cheney, whether they like it or not?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:03 AM
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29. That could very
well be. I think that the White House will try to keep the serious focus off of Rove. They will point to the OVP; the OVP will point at Rice. This summer, during the AIPAC espionage trial, the defendants are looking to point serious blame at Rice.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:12 AM
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5. Almost makes you kinda miss John Ashcroft, doesn't it?
Not really, but you know what I mean. Whenever we think they can't do any worse than they've already done, they invariably do. :scared:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:14 AM
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6. Kenneth Starr should be perfect. nt
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:19 AM
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8. Here's the big problem with the republicans...
they don't have a single candidate for the AG job who exudes a
wafer-thin morsel of honesty, fairness, integrity, experience or intellect,

What a buncha mutts.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:21 AM
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11. Makes sense.
Makes me wanna :puke: and :scared: but it certainly makes sense from these good ole boys.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:22 AM
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12. If Gonzales stays, the DOJ scandal will remain in the news
and more scandals will come out for the Republicans ;)
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:26 AM
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18. "when the preznit says sumpthin, he means it"
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Mr. Earl Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:37 AM
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23. Who is
next, Anne Coulter?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:50 AM
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25. Exactly, Mr. Earl. After all, she IS a 'Constitutional Attorney."
:eyes: Or so she says.:eyes: Just because they're qualified, doesn't mean they should be confirmed.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:04 AM
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27. Olsen would never get confirmed.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:25 AM
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28. Bush was a long-time defender of Rumsfeld. Who's that, you ask? nt
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:16 AM
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32. Olson's misdeeds go back much earlier than 2000
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:17 AM by Hamlette
Olson was one of the "elves" a group of lawyers and well conncected republicans who met in late November 1992 to plan for Clinton's impeachment.

Think about that date. Within a couple of weeks of Clinton being elected President, Olson and others meet to plan how to impeach him. Before he had even taken office.

If you ever doubted we are dealing with a very mean group of people, look no further than Olson and his attempted coup.

Edited..twice...because I posted BEFORE I proof read....bad typist.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:38 AM
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33. I remember Olson's comment on Harriet Miers' departure
"I will not be a replacement for Harriet Miers."
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