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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 08:54 PM Original message |
What if bullying was 1% responsible? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Look, bullying hurts...its true. But killers kill. And mentally ill people are a fact of life |
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ends_dont_justify (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. can't we end both? N/T |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. And both are related - while those who bully or are bullied may not be |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. No. Some people will bully. And some people will kill. But not all bullies and not all |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Dupe |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. but at virginia tech wasn't the shooter also the bully/stalker? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Cho clearly had a galaxy of problems |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. my read of it is that cho was himself a bully who wanted to bend others (girls) to his will EOM |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. In high school he was picked on quite a bit |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. in high school! crap, wasn't he 24? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. actually the love interest angle is wrong |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. but if he had been detained for the stalking he wouldn't be available to shoot anyone |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. They had him mentally evaluated |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. obviously the mental evaluation was wrong |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:39 PM Original message |
We try to error on the side of not committing people who shouldn't be committed |
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flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I read that the stalking consisted of |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. stalking two women is a warning sign. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I am not saying it isn't |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The articles say that he compared himself to Jesus Christ in his filmed rants |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I could see it making psychosis worse |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. The bullied turn into bullies, just like the abused turn into abusers. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. but the abused mostly DON'T turn into abusers |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Of course they don't |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. well i would like to see abuse brought to an end |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The university appeared to take this very seriously |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Of course not - that's not even a valid argument, sorry. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Then wouldn't stopping bullying have stopped him? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. yeah he should have been detained |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree, zero tolerance of stalking, which to me is the ultimate form of bullying |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. abuse does cause mental illiness as the body excapes the real world -DSC's point of less |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bravo. |
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flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. Those stories made me hurt. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
32. kick |
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