*Sigh* - NEW POISONS IDENTIFIED: CYANURIC ACID, AMILORINE, AMILORIDE

[rumpel]

I hope this is not a dupe

hogs were fed this stuff...

HOGS FED MELANINE-LACED RICE PROTEIN CONCENTRATE
NEW POISONS IDENTIFIED: CYANURIC ACID, AMILORINE, AMILORIDE
Another excellent article by Karen Roebuck of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

http://howl911.com/

actual article:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_503671.html

[WiseButAngrySara]

1. The hogs that go into our bacon? Are they still living? (the hogs)..n/t

[rumpel]

5. They are quarantined at one known farm in CA

6 were put down for tests..

They were FED THE RECALLED PET FOOD!

Yesterday, the urine of some pigs at the 1,500-animal American Hog Farm in Ceres, Calif., tested positive for melamine, although all appeared healthy, Lungren said. About half a dozen pigs were put down and researchers at the University of California-Davis are testing their kidneys, tissues, blood and other body parts for melamine contamination, she said.

The contaminated feed was bought April 3 and 13 as salvage pet food from Diamond Pet Foods Inc., which received contaminated rice protein concentrate used in some recalled Natural Balance pet food, Lungren said.

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. OMG! This was intentional and not just testing or accident

I guess. So, if the 'sacrificed' half dozen shows no sign of renal or other organ damage, are we to conclude that they will just keep feeding these hogs the discarded dog food, and human consumers will/might end up ingesting it without their knowledge?

[DKRC]

19. Has anyone tracked where the recalled pet food is going

once it's pulled from store shelves? Couldn't tell from the article, but if Diamond Pet Foods was trying to make at least some of it's money back by selling it as salvage that's despicable.

[Cobalt Violet]

20. Diamond says they don't use rice protien concentrate in pet food.

http://www.diamondpet.com


Regarding the American Hog Farm Melamine Contamination Issue

The salvage product provided to American Hog Farm in Ceres, Calif., by Diamond Pet Foods, was sold prior to Diamond Pet Foods being notified of the contamination in rice protein concentrate.
It is a common regulated practice for animal food facilities to provide salvage product to farms with non-ruminant animals. This regulated practice is mindful of the environment as it does not waste energy (food) and saves valuable landfill space.
We have been working closely with regulatory officials, and will continue to do so until this issue is resolved.

[Clark2008]

10. I'm so glad I'm allergic to pork right now.

[rumpel]

11. some hogs were already sold as food

the article says...

Probably only sold in CA supermarkets at this point - I am reluctant to cook the ones in my fridge..

The FDA better check where else these 60 Million tonnes of "salvage pet foods" were sold to.

[WiseButAngrySara]

15. Oh, to say the least! This is horrendous. ....n/t

[matt819]

2. Tinfoil hat alert?

Either the Chinese are really bad at producing animal feed, or this is a concerted attack on the US pet and human food supply.

Have there been any recalls in Europe, or is this restricted to the US?

[rumpel]

4. I believe there have been recalls in Australia and S.Africa n/t

[whistle]

3. This is not Chinese who are at fault, this is corporate America greed

....and stock holder profits and dividends that drove this. The politicians have a big role in this as well, bastards

[rumpel]

7. Yup" The contaminated feed was bought April 3 and 13 as salvage pet food from Diamond Pet Foods Inc

how greedy and unbelievably - stupid...

[WiseButAngrySara]

16. This has to be criminal. ....n/t

[papau]

6. Is there enough CYA (CYANURIC ACID) in the dog food to get a toxic dose?

the toxicity rates (http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/CY/cyanuric_acid.html) are of the order of 3000 mg/kg

[rumpel]

8. Is that mg per body weight kg?

[enki23]

9. i think people are piling on a bit, here. doesn't mean there isn't a real problem though.

it's just good to keep in mind that, with today's highly sensitive testing, you find a little of about anything in about anything.

[salin]

18. enki!!!!!

we haven't crossed paths in FAR too long. Great to see you! :hi:

And yes I think folks are jumping before understanding what all of this does or doesn't mean.

[enki23]

21. wow. hey. damned long time.

:hi:

[salin]

22. have to say

that there is a true blast of "cool and happy" energy when running across someone I grew to be fond of, but haven't seen in what feels likes eons. Hope that you are well!

[eppur_se_muova]

12. "all by-products of melamine"

To a chemist, it is obvious from the very similar structures of these compounds that they could all come from a common precursor. Hydrolysis (reaction with water) either in the body or even on long storage would form cyanuric acid, which is probably a side-product from the mf'ure of melamine (made from urea) as well. It doesn't sound like these other compounds indicate new occurences of contamination, but they may offer clues as to the toxic effects.

[rumpel]

13. Yes - the article reports

About 30 percent of those crystals are made up of melamine, one investigator said, and researchers spent several weeks trying to identify what is in the remainder.

Researchers in at least three labs found cyanuric acid, amilorine and amiloride -- all by-products of melamine -- in the crystals of animals' urine, tissues and kidneys, according to Dr. Brent Hoff, a veterinarian and clinical toxicologist and pathologist, at the University of Guelph, in Ontario, Canada; Richard Goldstein, associate professor of medicine at Cornell University's College of Veterinary Medicine and a kidney specialist, and Dr. Thomas Mullaney, acting director of Michigan State University's Center for Population and Animal Health.

All three are by-products of melamine, which researchers said they believe were formed as the animals metabolized the melamine.

Finding cyanuric acid is the more significant finding, Hoff, Goldstein and Mullaney said, although they are not yet certain how toxic it is to animals.

[Junkdrawer]

17. Huffington Post has the "They did it to fool the protein tests" theory...

...

Given the facts, it is now reasonable to assume either massive, industry-wide negligence, or intentional contamination, and that all Chinese produced high-protein food additives are now suspect. Steve Pickman, a VP at MGP Ingredients, the largest U.S. producer of wheat gluten, explores the most likely theory:

"It is my understanding, but certainly unheard of in our experience, that melamine could increase the measurable nitrogen of gluten and then be mathematically converted to protein. The effect could create the appearance or illusion of raising the gluten's protein level. Understandably, any acts or practices such as this are barred in the U.S. How the U.S. can or cannot monitor and prevent these types of situations from occurring in other parts of the world is the overriding question."
In grading the quality of these food additives, the protein content is usually extrapolated from measured nitrogen levels. It now seems likely that unscrupulous manufacturers, in an effort to up the grade and price of their product, are intentionally spiking nitrogen levels with melamine, an industrial chemical used in China as a slow-release nitrogen fertilizer.

...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-goldstein/melaminetainted-corn-glu_b_46285.html