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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:44 PM
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On the issue of global climate change . Why not install a meter.
Edited on Sun Dec-06-09 09:45 PM by blues90
Since there is such a debate on this issue why not do this. Set aside the facts for a second and just for the shear hell of it.

Install in every car and home and cell phone in case you are walking an air quality meter. So when you are driving along it is set at the perfect air quality and then reads out how bad it really is and an alarm goes off. Same with water have a sensor that reads pure water and an alarm goes off when it's not good.

It can even read levels of emissions and show that if needed. It could be as simple as a scale from 1 to 10.

At least it might make people aware.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:49 PM
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1. Air quality and global climate change are not directly related.
First, air quality, like weather, is a local matter.

Your idea isn't a bad one so far as it monitors air quality, collects data, provides alerts.

But we could have fantastic air quality worldwide and still suffer from continuing introduction pg GHGs.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:56 PM
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2. yes that's true . My thought is that it would at least bring
some kind of awareness even if it is in your area on the globe. I imagine if someone was driving along and as most toxins in the air alone are not visable it would at least sound an alarm and maybe bring about some awarness that there is a problem. You know like when the check engine yeoow light comes on in a car people freak out.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:02 PM
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3. how often would the alarm go off?
i doubt that too many places would have 'perfect air quality'...would the alrm be constant in bad 'areas'...?

who's paying for it?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:13 PM
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5. car have all sorts of crap telling you the air temp right?
If the air is bad enough where it is not safe to breath then the alarm goes off or just beeps and shuts off after a few seconds then if you want push a button and see what it read .

The idea is just to give people an idea of what they are breathing in. Just remove the outside air temp sensor and replace it with something more usefull and it would not be an extra cost. It could be just a carbon dioxcide detector.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:44 PM
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11. all it would do is create a market for interior air filtration systems for cars.
btw- 'not safe to breath(e)' seems like a pretty subjective 'measurement' device- about the only place it might actually occur is if someone is in the running car in the garage with the garage door shut- but in most of those cases, 'unsafe to breathe' is pretty much what they're going for anyway.

"Just remove the outside air temp sensor and replace it with something more usefull(sic) and it would not be an extra cost. It could be just a carbon dioxcide(sic) detector."

1- do all sensors cost the same? :shrug:
2- what is a carbon dioxide detector going to tell people? atmospheric co2 concentrations are fairly minimal, and can probably vary locally due to things like weather conditions and proximity to sources. when faced with a fairly meaningless(to their day-to-day lives) sensor on a regular basis, most people are just going to phase it out.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:08 PM
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4. what is the point
of this? run home and get my gas mask? barricade myself indoors? stop the car and push it home? silly idea (IMO).
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greennina Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:19 PM
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6. So you can go home and act like a Repuke...
and thing you're safe with your mandatory plastic sheeting and duct tape.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:21 PM
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8. actually that's pretty close . nt
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:19 PM
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7. No . it would just be an indicator of awareness that's all.
There would be no required reponse as you indicate . It would just let people be aware while sitting in traffic that the air in their car is not quite what they feel it is. A matter of conscience, that's all.

Lets say for example , you are on a bumper to bumper freeway and you turn on the A/C where the intake for the A/C is the area just below the wind shield and what you are doing is drawing in the exhaust from the car in front of you .
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:48 PM
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12. "what you are doing is drawing in the exhaust from the car in front of you "
then why aren't there carloads of corpses on the highway during traffic jams on hot days? :shrug:

bumper-to-bumper traffic, a/c on, windows rolled up, and nobody's moving...

why has there never been a mass death from CO poisoning in such a scenario?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:25 PM
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9. Does the local news not provide air quality alerts where you live?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:47 PM
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10. not anymore , they used to .
Who know what happened with that perhaps it costs too much . I haven't seen the air quality index for years.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:56 PM
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13. Because that's a stupid, unworkable idea. n/t
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