You Think You Guys can put up with a little Rant about the Homeless

[Monkeyman]

You Guys know I work to help homeless vets. But I try to help all who are homeless. Shelters are now closing . Its getting warm. I think about the working poor and a child going to bed hungry. Today at the Church I saw a huge line for help with food. families with kids are still out there sleeping any where they can find. I know the DU donates to the poor. But with Bush's and the Republican Budget Cuts we are about to see something from the 20"s and 30's. I don't know what to do. I give as much as I can. But its getting worse. So Guys what Ideas do you have to help these people? Public Housing is just being cut to hell. People are working Day Jobs. I think the last number I saw was over 800,000 homeless. That Number will claim if this Country does not stand up and say something. Well off my chest but not out of my mind end of rant.

[Lars39]

1. I'm short on ideas right now, Monkeyman, but I can still kick.

You're a good hearted person. :hug:

[Cabcere]

12. Same.

:hug: K&R, my friend. :kick:

[Virginia Dare]

2. Back to the tent villages of the 30's?

and there are no trains for the hobos to ride looking for work anymore.

I know it was common practice for folks to feed men who showed up at their door hungry no questions asked, even though they were struggling to put food on the table themselves, somehow I don't see the modern day paranoid generations doing this, but who knows how drastically things will change.

[Greyhound]

36. Everywhere they spring up the "good people" of the community outlaw

and destroy them, along with the few pathetic possessions the residents had.

We are such awful people, it is no wonder so many hate us.

[Sapphire Blue]

3. I appreciate & welcome your rant! Here are a few suggestions...

Will you stand up for Human Rights for the Homeless & send this report to your Senators & Rep?: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/154


Rep. Carson Continues Battle on Homelessness (*** TAKE ACTION *** on H.R. 840 - HEARTH Act of 2007): http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/162


The Counting is Done; Let the Housing Begin: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/200


Call Congress RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!! Until your fingers bleed!!! ***** 1-800-459-1887 *****: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/241 (edited to add: If this number is not currently working, you can find working Capitol toll-free numbers in calimary's sig line.)


"Shall we have phones implanted, to make it easier?: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/196


More @ http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue


Edited to add:

SOCIAL JUSTICE vs. CHARITY
THROUGH OUR FINGERS
Ronald Stanley, O.P.

"Two men were fishing in a river. Late in the afternoon they started cooking some of the fish they had caught. Suddenly they heard the cries of a man being swept down the river. Immediately the men jumped into the river, swam out to the man, and were gradually able to pull him ashore. As they were on shore catching their breath, they heard the cries of a woman being swept down the river. They jumped back into the water, made their way out to the woman, and slowly brought her to shore. They were exhausted but happy to have saved both people. Then they heard to cries of a child being swept downstream. One of the men started back into the water to get the child; the other held back. "Aren't you going to save the child?" asked the first. "You go get the child," responded the second, "I'm going to go upstream to find out why so many people are falling into the river."

Charity is happy to spend all day pulling victims out of the river. Social justice asks: why are so many people falling into the river? Is there a pathway or a bridge in need of repair? Is there someone throwing people into the river? When there is a pattern of people repeatedly falling victim, social justice seeks to discover and remedy the root causes of the problem.

Charity does the important work of meeting the immediate needs of suffering people, for food, clothing, housing, medicine, etc. Most everyone today approves and praises charity.

Social justice, on the other hand, dares to ask troubling questions: if the earth's resources are meant to meet the needs of all the earth's children, why are 20% of the world's population consuming over 80% of the earth's resources, leaving 80% of the world living in misery? Isn't it only just that the privilege few live more simply, so that the masses might simply live?

(snip)

Our politicians smooth the pathways and bridges of the privileged, to the neglect of the poor. Little wonder then that so many of the poor keep falling into the river. Their falling is not simply an accident. They are not "falling through the cracks." They are falling through our fingers.

Continued @ http://www.ramapo.edu/studentlife/ministry/catholic_Ministry/Articles/social_justice.htm

[Monkeyman]

5. Thanks I knew you have some of the ideas

[Sapphire Blue]

10. Charity is like putting a band-aid on an infected wound on a foot; the wound continues to fester...

... which can lead to gangrene & systemic disease. It's time to stop w/the band-aids. It's time to clean out & properly dress the wound, and also provide systemic antibiotic treatment to the entire body which has suffered the effects of the infected wound. And it's time to clean up the broken glass, rusty nails, and tin cans, so people won't be getting anymore wounds on their feet.

As it is w/one human body, it is w/the collective body of our society.

[Breeze54]

45. Thanks for all the links!

Federal Public Policy

http://www.enterprisecommunity.org/public_policy/federal/

Through testimony and public comment, Enterprise supports innovative and effective policies to promote healthy communities.

High Performance Buildings Act Introduced
On March 1, Reps. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), John Lewis (D-Ga.), Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Wayne Gilchrest (R-Md.)
introduced the High Performance Buildings Act of 2007. The bill encourages the development of affordable
housing that is energy efficient, healthier and environmentally sustainable over time.

Read the Enterprise endorsement.

Specifically, the bill would require that communities' annual consolidated plans to HUD include
strategies for sustainable development. (HUD approval of plans is required for states and cities
to receive federal housing and community development funds). The bill would also create a program
at HUD to provide resources to nonprofit organizations for the development of green affordable
housing in low-income communities. Finally, the bill would establish a Sustainable Building
Institute at the National Science Foundation to research indoor environmental quality and
innovative energy-saving technologies.

In addition to Enterprise, other national organizations endorsing the bill include the
American Public Health Association, Global Green USA, the Local Initiatives Support Corporation,
the National Center for Healthy Housing and the National Housing Conference.

Snip-->

The 110th Congress instead passed a $463.5 billion fiscal 2007 continuing funding resolution
for the remainder of the fiscal year, which the President signed into law on February 15.
Congress largely funded HUD programs at their fiscal 2006 levels in the continuing resolution.
A few programs received small boosts in funding, including Section 8 housing choice vouchers,
project-based Section 8 vouchers, McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Grants and public housing
operating subsidies.

More.........

[The Blue Flower]

4. Get organized

I'm part of a fairly small group that started organizing to open up a soup kitchen in my neighborhood in north Seattle. The space is a church gym with a large attached kitchen. We get food for soup and sandwiches donated from the food bank. Bread comes from a neighborhood organic bakery. Produce is donated from an organic farm. The church put in a garden that we hope will also provide us with food for the soup kitchen. We organized volunteers, and have around 50 people in our database. The homeless in our area are fortunate in that they can find a free meal Monday through Friday at a couple of churches and the food bank, who coordinate their efforts. Ours is only on Saturday, and it is quite a lot of work, but it has been extremely rewarding for us. Tomorrow we'll be hosting a forum with various agencies and our homeless guests participating in a discussion of what they need for services and a possible shelter.

I know one day a week isn't much, but it's something we're happy doing. It's a safe, quiet, sober, and clean sanctuary for a few hours for them. When we send our guests out back onto the streets with their backpacks full of sandwiches, we know they'll make it until Monday.

[Breeze54]

42. When I was homeless with my 5 yr. old, this group helped me.

The Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless (MCH) works to address
the broad economic and social issues that lead to homelessness.

http://www.mahomeless.org/home/home.html

Created by an association of grassroots organizations in 1981, MCH is the country's oldest statewide
homeless advocacy organization. MCH's policy and organizational work involves the annual participation
of over 700 volunteers, over 800 faith communities, 1300 service providers and regional advocacy
groups, and hundreds of families and individuals who have experienced homelessness.

Join Us for Our Spring 2007 Training Series:

The Coalition will be holding its Spring 2007 training series on
Housing 101 and Accessing Emergency Shelter and Prevention Services
for Families with Children starting April 23, 2007.

Trainings will be held in 5 sites throughout Massachusetts.

Click here for information http://www.mahomeless.org/specialevents/What%27s%20in%20a%20Bag.doc

The 2005-2006 Edition of the Coalition's Down & Out Resource Manual is now available.

Click here for Down & Out order form
http://www.mahomeless.org/publications/D&O%20Flyer%2005.doc

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I don't know if other states have coalitions in place. The idea is they bought apt. buildings
and rent apts. at 1/3 of persons income. They also have transitional housing for people waiting
for a place/funding and to move people into apts. I've read that NYC has a similar program.

Thanks for all you do, Monkeyman! :hug:

[Sapphire Blue]

43. Here's a list of Resources/Directories from the National Coalition for the Homeless:

http://www.nationalhomeless.org/resources/index.html

[Bluerthanblue]

6. it is actually a welcome word to me- your voice is one that

is speaking in an effort to give people a heads up-

And I agree with you about the swelling homeless population. I've been working with a shelter which closed before the last spell of heavy snow and then heavy rains.

There are so many people who have no shelter- and little hope of finding anything long term.

I wish I had a 'good' answer- We have a pretty effective food program (warm meals twice a day to anyone who comes) but shelter, especially for families, or people that aren't able to abide by strict requirements (go to AA/NA, show job search proof, single cots- no family friendly situations...) is such a difficult growing need.

thank you for caring- and working for our brothers and sisters
peace,
blu

[Monkeyman]

9. Seeing the kids. I didn't have much when I was Young but never went hungry

[Bluerthanblue]

16. I agree- we had several little ones- over the season, and

that 'crying time' before sleep,(that my own kids took a while getting past), is so much harder for Mum's and Dads to cope with, (never mind the little one) when privacy, quiet, and routine are hard to find.

I look at the empty dept. stores that wait to get bulldozed and replaced, and I wish there were some way to create communities, even if only for a while- for those who are in need of shelter.

It'd be nice if Bill Gates, or Warren Buffett got involved -

we're all in this thing together- and we all need each other.
whether we like it or not- :silly:

peace,
blu

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

7. Give us a few links to organizations that you trust or work with.

I'd be happy to make a donation.

[bobbolink]

23. Or, you could look at posts #3 and #10

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

33. Sorry I missed it... Jesus.

I was offering to do something nice. No need for the snippiness.

Edit: I have the author of posts #3 and #10 on ignore, so it's not much use to me anyway.

[Sapphire Blue]

35. ...

Why does that not surprise me?

[Mojorabbit]

8. Our code pink group

here in Orlando has teamed up with Food not Bombs and are feeding while hoping to dodge arrest. We do have a lot of vets(vietnam) show up for a hot meal as well as families, couples,mentally ill,teens, and really a cross section of everyone both male and female. I make bagged lunches for them to take with them with fruit, sandwiches, breakfast bars, cookies, etc. because I know the hot meal may be the only one they get for a while and they will need something later. It breaks my heart.

[frogcycle]

11. Damn I wish I could respond with something constructive

Homelessness in a country as rich as this, with as many fat cats as we have pulling down bonuses in tens of millions, with as many McMansions as are being built all over, is just obscene.

That vets are a significant portion of the homeless is additionally obscene.

Of course we can all do a little something - make a contribution, etc., but the issue is really the fundamental societal values.

There are those who believe in societal responsibilities, and those who don't. Our government is run by those who don't. We cannot create any sort of better environment unless we throw the bums out, and resurrect some of the philosophies of the New Deal, which the neocons are working so hard to undo. Hell, they not only don't care about the homeless vets, they don't care about the wounded, they want to trash social security; they'd love to do away with medicare and medicaid. They would love to re-create the social structure of medieval Europe. Rich folks in castles; everyone else in squalor. This is not hyperbole! There is nothing different in the mindset of people like the bush family and there ilk from that of Henry VIII or Marie Antoinette. Nothing. Consider Barbara Bush's comment about the people living in the football stadium because their homes were destroyed "they won't mind - they're poor people - they never had it so good." We do not live in an age of enlightenment where such attitudes are only a thing of the past, like slavery. Did anyone believe in the 1930's that what the Nazi's did was humanly possible?

It is a losing battle trying to chip away at that mindset. The French had to storm the Bastille, and give the guillotine a good workout to break the cycle. When we formed our government "Of the People" it was a radical idea. That "the People" mattered one whit was a controversial concept; it was hotly debated. The Bill of Rights was an add-on that Hamilton and others objected to strenuously. And we have Hamiltonians today who believe the only important amendments in the Bill of Rights are the Second and the Fifth.

Sorry to ramble, Monkeyman. I'll try to sum up: what we are seeing, as bad as it is, is nothing compared to what they would have if they could, and are working toward. No middle class. Just the very rich, and the rest ALL homeless. Oh, there'd be some form of tarpaper shack shelter to fight over amongst ourselves, so not all would be homeless, but a lot more than today. So while we can and should do what we can on an individual basis to help those we can, what we MUST do is TAKE BACK AMERICA by crushing this gang of elitists. Until then, it will be only the less unfortunate doing what they can to help the more unfortunate, while cheney's cronies get richer.

[Parche]

13. I Feel Your Pain

They send $500 billion to Iraq, and they can fund the homeless and the people HERE who need it.......................................:mad:

[MadHound]

14. I do what I can, in my own way locally

Having been homeless at one point, this is near and dear to my heart. I help out at the local homeless shelter, I donate food and money when I can spare it.

This problem has been an ever increasing one ever since Reagan came into office. He started the funding cuts then, cut mental health care funding and thus the mentally ill were forced into the streets to fend for themselves. Clinton continued to shred our social safety net, and Bush is in the process of truly exacerbating the problem.

Thank you for your work on this. I do what I can, but time and money both have to be focused elsewhere for me. Sadly this doesn't seem to be a priority for our Democratic leadership, and I doubt that it will be anytime soon.

[Monkeyman]

15. Sadly I agree

[kineneb]

17. an idea

I have lots, some of which may be deemed illegal...:evilgrin:

-squatting-
what with all the empty houses that are being left as the housing bubble bursts, why not subtly encourage squatting? There will be lots of empty houses held by the banks (until they go under), especially those McMansions...heck, several families could live in one of those and never see each other.
Time to take some lessons from our European friends; I seem to remember they even have something like a "squatters' union".

sorry for being flip, but we all have to learn to think outside of the box, refrigerator or otherwise...

[blues90]

18. I see it and only wish I could help

This problem seems to be the lowest on the list of issues , no one in the senate or the house talks about this .

It is all left up to the people who have little and offer what they can .

It amazes me how many people contribute to campaign funding from all walks of life when the politicians do nothing for these issues .

All the focus is on promises made and those who fall through the ever widening cracks multiply daily .

people seem to feel anyone homeless is a loser or not trying but many are ones who just lost their job or could not afford to keep up with the increase of the cost of living due to hours cut or new low pay jobs .

We all know this , nothing new here . I have always handed out what I could when a homeless human asked , I still do even though I have no job and may very well lose what roof I have , I figure a dollar here and there will not be missed by me and is a day better for someone who has nothing .

If only I could win a lotto or find something I would give as much as possible without a second thought .

[druidity33]

19. Ever read Walden Two?

It's a little radical if you take everything BF Skinner writes literally. But there are some truly revolutionary ideas there. Also you might check out the book No More Throw Away People by Edgar Cahn. He is the inventor of Time Dollars/Time Banks. Co-Housing could also be an option...

Regular people will need to combine resources and share skills in order to survive in the coming world.

Also consider reading A Pattern Language by Christopher Alexander for creating a basis for affordable/sustainable owner-built dwellings. Indigenous materials and locally produced supplies (straw bale, cordwood building, ferro-cement, adobe, etc) can create truly low-cost homes (as little as $1 a sq foot). Everyone who builds a home has to help everyone else who builds a home... or something like that.

there are no short term solutions i'm afraid...

[Monkeyman]

20. There are no short term solutions we have to do this for the long term

[tavalon]

22. That has been our solution

We can't take in everyone but we have taken in three now and if we start learning to build the strawbale houses, we have 10 acres and we will be able to take in more folks. I would like that.

[tavalon]

21. Over the past 3 years

We've taken in three homeless folks. One has been with us for all of those three years and he is family and the mother and her child just came to stay with us about 6 weeks ago. While it's been quite an adjustment and much shuffling of living space has occurred, I think we're going to make this one work too. I'm glad because I think the three year old wasn't doing too well as a street kid and I don't think his mother ever did.

We all also contribute to Real Change.

That said, it seems like the situation is so dire for so many that it just feels overwhelming.

[bobbolink]

24. Why all the handwringing about "there's nothing I can do" in this thread?????

Post number 3, by Sapphire Blue, gives plenty of things we ALL can do! Writing and calling, yet NOBODY responds to this?

Can anyone tell me why it's so impossible to make some calls and write some letters to actually make a HUGE difference in homelessness?

Really, this is one answer I'd really like to know.

I really would.

Please, someone tell my why all the times Sapphire Blue has posted these requests for calls and letters, there is hardly ever a response.

Will you respond to MY QUESTION?

Thanks in advance.

[Monkeyman]

25. If you ever saw I am always on Blues Post

[bobbolink]

27. the only place to post to the whole thread is in reply to your OP

[bobbolink]

29. .

:kick:

[Sapphire Blue]

26. I'd also like to know why there is relatively little response to threads suggesting/asking/begging/

... SCREAMING for action and/or solutions. Why so many flip responses commiserating/complaining/blaming, but when a damn toll-free number is provided, people can't get off their collective duffs, go to their damn phones, press those 10 toll-free numbers & perhaps make a difference?

I think the explanation may be somewhere in here: Mazel tov: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/237... and if anyone actually reads that thread, they might find some suggestions for solutions.

[bobbolink]

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[Nicole]

30. Some of us do make the calls & write the letters.

Just because we don't post in Sapphire Blue's threads doesn't mean we aren't taking action.

In addition to making calls & writing letters, some of us are involved locally in making a difference.

[bobbolink]

31. Thank you for your efforts!

We would appreciate help in keeping the posts "up".... they sink very rapidly.

:hi: :hug: :hi:

[Sapphire Blue]

34. Thank you for what you do!

And seconds on bobbolink's request to keep threads kicked (not just mine, btw, but anytime you see a request for action, please, just a :kick: if nothing else... they're easily missed when they sink. Thanks! :hug:)

[Nicole]

37. I'm not a good kicker

However I do recommend all your action request threads so they make it to the greatest page for more visibility.

[Sapphire Blue]

39. ..

Nicole, thank you! I really appreciate your doing that, and I hope you're passing those R's out to all worthwhile action threads.

[JitterbugPerfume]

32. thank you Monkey Man

you are a heroic person

Kick

[calimary]

38. My son just launched his little rock band at a student-organized

benefit for the homeless. It was in a local park, set up by a high school senior who wanted to earn community service credits, give her friends' organizations some exposure and support, and give other teens and families reason to come - to see the live music, the bands, the entertainment, and the craft table (we had a fun recycled craft table that I hosted, and another table next to it full of girls who were doing face-painting). Oh yeah, AND there was an animal group that had really interesting things like little alligators and snakes and teeny little monkeys and other really adorable and unusual creatures). You might have a pet-adoption booth there. Anyway, my son wound up with five-and-a-half hours' worth of community service credit, as did the other boys in his band. Lots of good information was given out about local shelters and food banks and clothing donation centers, there was a concession stand with nibbles all donated by a local store. Local resource organizations got exposure, interest, donations. It was a win-win situation. EVERYBODY won something. And organizations set up to help the homeless got attention, some financial backing, and a slightly higher profile.

Does your church have a youth group? Could they organize something like this? Maybe focused on something like this, or maybe on a fundraiser for a single organization or group? Make it like an open-air faire or carnival. The church women donate their fabulous cooking - have them assemble a recipe book for sale, maybe? Pie-eating contests, and pie-COOKING contests. A petting zoo. Games for the kids, maybe a moon bounce or something. Some of the kids surely have put together their own bands or mime groups or acting troupes or maybe some of them belong to a magic club? How 'bout a stage set-up where there can be performances. The men of the church could help build some of the booths and stuff. Everyone donates. The price of admission and of tickets to this and that, or what's paid at the food booths or game booths - it ALL goes to the local homeless advocates of your choosing. Put it together as something splashy and fun and cool now that the weather's warmer and you can do more outside. EVERYBODY wins. The kids and teens involved all get community service hours/credit - which they ALL need for graduation and high school and college applications. Invite the local media, some local dignitaries whose staffs might provide some certificates of appreciation to award to the organizers. It meant a HUGE amount to my kid and his friends when their band was presented with this fancy-looking, hand-lettered certificate of appreciation from one of the county supervisors. Maybe invite a local radio station to simulcast one of their weekend DJ's shifts. Or GET THEM INVOLVED.

You wrap up your message or your mission in this big, spashy, colorful party-type thing, and you get it through.

[Major Hogwash]

40. Our taxes paid for our schools, but they won't let them stay overnight in the gyms.

But, it makes no sense why not.

Nobody is using those big gymnasiums we built at night.
They are just large empty warehouses at night now.

They shut the doors to the only big homeless shelter here last month!
That was incredibly harsh of them, it still gets below freezing here sometimes.
The shelter was supposed to house 80 people maximum, but they had 110 people on average every night last winter.

[Maraya1969]

41. This is not a cure but I was involved in a great organization in NJ.

We collected the little soaps and shampoos and Q-tips and other toiletries items and put them in little baggies to give to the homeless. You would be surprised how much they appreciated these things. We also collected clothes and once a month went into NY under the bridges and gave out these things along with nice good, (not junkie) sandwiches and soup. The people really appreciated it. And it made it possible for them to apply for jobs.

I also just thought about someone here giving jobs to homeless people to pain their house. There are plenty of things to do around my house, including cleaning and cutting the grass. People who have little stores or businesses can hire these people and allow them to wash up in the bathroom before work.

That is just one idea. (it is really important to separate the clothes according to size or you will have a big mess on your hands while distributing them).

[nealmhughes]

44. I have been researching a scholarly journal article addressing access limitation

in publicly funded libraries for two years now. Just collecting anecdotes, press clips and the few articles that there are. I have yet to write any text at all, because the new articles and anecdotes just keep on coming and coming and I get so damned depressed about the topic. The same thing happened in the civil war in the Former Yugoslavia. I collected and collected and never wrote because it just depressed me so. I still have a Yugoslav visa entry on my passport, but I never used it, too depressed to see Sarajevo now.
I have come to the conclusion that we had collectively largely written off Marx as irrevelent these days, that he was only discussing the issues of Britain and Belgium in Das Kapital in the 1840s, but it seems that while it may have been true for a while, the tide has turned and a little compassion towards Messrs. Marx and Engels direction need be shown. The "Ayn Randization" of America/Britain happened during the Reaganzeit, and the consequences are showing over twenty years later. Mentally ill? Tough. An excon? No jobs here, MAs are cleaning pools nowadays, who needs a thug around? I am reminded of the letter sent out by the Ayn Rand Institute after the Boxing Day Typhoon urging no public charity, only private for the destroyed beach communities of the Indian Ocean.
Is altruism truly dead in this country except for those who constitute a large enough voting bloc to demand it? Screw altruism, how about why governments are constituted amongst men and women in the first place? Collective safety and not an aristocracy claiming special rights such as the right to outsource jobs, make the laws, enforce the laws, invade countries, etc. ad naus.; and the rest of us peons -- tossed a bone occasionally such as being "tolerated" employment or token representation while sending our sons off to another military adventure?
In short, not until enough people start to demand that homeless camps be demolished and not for visual annoyance of the bourgeoisie, rather for the fact that they no longer need exist due to the commitment of ourselves collectively, through our government to rid everyone of unsafe, unsanitary and unnecessary tents and sleeping bags and empty stomachs and no showers, will anything be done, save police action.
We are willing to spend $4000 per capita for everyone in Iraq to continue the war there another few months, but not a cent to buck up public housing? What kind of country is this? It is certainly not what the founders imagined, I can guarantee that! Nor our grandfathers nor our great-grandmothers.
Charity to the poor is one of the most basic tenets of the three Abrahamic religions, and most others for that matter, since most teach universal brotherhood. Naked and alone came we all alone into the world and alone we shall leave it, whether prince or pauper, liar or saint.

[Major Hogwash]

46. I guess real issues like this don't trump Baldwin's phone call to his daughter.

Like I care what a fat, overpaid, has been movie star said to his daughter!

:angry:

[entanglement]

47. Kick for the homeless

:kick: