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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:13 PM
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The Inane, Insane Ramblings of George W. Bush
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070419/bush-musings

Maybe the president just felt like jabbering at the town hall-style event in Tipp City, Ohio. He began talking about terrorism and ended 90 minutes later after chattering about everything from life after the White House to Vietnam War and the brutal Khmer Rouge regime.

Some highlights:

_"Politics comes and goes, but your principles don't. And everybody wants to be loved _ not everybody. ... You never heard anybody say, `I want to be despised, I'm running for office.'"

_"The best thing about my family is my wife. She is a great first lady. I know that sounds not very objective, but that's how I feel. And she's also patient. Putting up with me requires a lot of patience."

_"There are jobs Americans aren't doing. ... If you've got a chicken factory, a chicken-plucking factory, or whatever you call them, you know what I'm talking about."

_"There are some similarities, of course" between Iraq and Vietnam. "Death is terrible."

_"I've been in politics long enough to know that polls just go poof at times."

As he has before, Bush told the story about how his first presidential decision was to pick a rug for the Oval Office, a task he quickly cast to his wife. He told her to make sure the rug reflected optimism "because you can't make decisions unless you're optimistic that the decisions you make will lead to a better tomorrow."

Later, when he talked about his hope for succeeding in Iraq, Bush said, "Remember the rug?"
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:15 PM
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1. so we're determining foreign policy on a magic carpet ride/
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 05:01 PM
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12. Also known as the "persian" doctrine.
That doctrine really tied the room together.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 05:06 PM
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14. before this nightmare is over, I bet
we'll hear stories of him alone in the room at night, staring at the floor, saying "you're doing a heck of a job, ruggie!"
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:08 PM
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22. As a retired professional carpet installer for 30 years
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 10:09 PM by Wiley50
Any fool who thinks a rug is "optimistic"
is actually a damned fool

Perhaps if the "rug" was a toupee
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:16 PM
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2. "most people do not consider
'total self indulgence' to really be a principle"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:19 PM
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4. I posted in the wrong place.
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 04:21 PM by BurtWorm
:hi:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:22 PM
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6. I infer from that
that * thinks his self-indulgence is ok though.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:43 PM
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9. my quote is from memory from Calvin and Hobbes
When Bush says he is living by principles, I think 'total self indulgence' is the only 'principle' he really has. My previous essay sums it up:

We Know Where He Stands


In his acceptance speech President Bush said: "In the last four years, you and I have come to know each other. Even when we do not agree, at least you know what I believe and where I stand."
As is typical when Bush speaks, none of that is true. In the first place I knew he was a liar before he ever became President. In the second place, from the polls, it appears that most of my fellow Americans are unaware of this as over 50% say they "trust" him. So I already knew him, and apparently many Americans still don't.
In the third place, he does not know me. I know many kinds of people. I have rich friends and relatives. I have conservative Republican and fundamentalist Christian friends. I have friends who have drug problems, mental problems, work, money, and relationship problems. Does Bush have any friends that he lent $50 to so their lights would not be shut off? Does he have working class or left-wing friends?
I would venture to say that he knows next to nothing about people like me. The idea that George W. Bush would stoop to going into a McDonalds (like Clinton), or a Wendys (like Edwards), much less a Wal-mart, even to buy a DVD of The Passion, is not a story that I have heard in the last four years. The idea that he cares about the troubles and struggles of the bottom half, much less the bottom 20% is unbelievable.
To his claim that he knows me, I would quote Bender from The Breakfast Club: "Don't you ever talk about my friends! You don't know any of my friends! You don't look at any of my friends, and you certainly wouldn't condescend to speak to any of my friends!"
However, he does claim to care about the jobless, which gives the lie to his claim that we know where he stands. He said: "To create jobs, my plan will encourage investment and expansion by restraining federal spending, reducing regulation, and making tax relief permanent." So he says he cares about people who do not have jobs. That is where he claims to stand, on their side. His plan to help them - permanent tax cuts for rich people, especially those with dividend income. He pays lip service to our troubles and uses that as an excuse to give rich people, like himself coincidentally, wads of cash.
He said: "The American people deserve and our economic future demands a simpler, fairer, pro-growth system. In a new term, I will lead a bipartisan effort to reform and simplify the federal tax code." So he claims to care about the "American people". I am willing to bet my entire life savings that his "reform" of the federal tax code will be a windfall for rich people like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Any takers? Put your $50,000 where your faith is.
In May of this year, House Republicans passed a bill creating $6.9 billion in tax cuts. Who gets those tax cuts? Families earning between $110,000 and $300,000 who are raising children. House Republicans called that the "middle class" in spite of the fact that in 2001, 80% of all households made less than $83,500, and only 5% made more than $151,000. Bush's tax cuts were like that, targeted to the upper incomes, although he has never admitted it. He also said he was going to be a uniter in his first term, and yet the tax cuts of 2003 passed the Senate 51-50. His promise of a "bipartisan effort" is another lie.
For over four years Bush has lied and lied and lied about the way his tax cuts primarily benefit the rich. He has lied about numbers which any honest accountant can verify. As a mathematician and an economist, I am outraged by his dishonesty and flabbergasted at his audacity. The audacity to spend over four years lying and then to say "we may disagree, but at least I am a straight talker". In a sense, however, he is right. Those of us who pay attention do know where he stands, on the side of the rich, the powerful, the intolerant, the unthinking, the dogmatic, and pragmatically, on the side of untruth. I know that, however, not by believing what he says, but by watching what he does.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:17 PM
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3. Anybody have a video of this? God I'd love to see it
and pass it around.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:21 PM
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5. Your wish is my command
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:13 PM
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19. Thanks
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:33 PM
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7. Shrub* is showing every sign of advanced dementia
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:41 PM
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8. he was riffing about himself, which makes it scarier.
the "Politics - - - I'm running for office" stuff, and becoming defensive about Laura? Clearly, all about him.

Jobs that americans aren't doing? at extremely low pay, for sure.

polls go poof? Does he mean that polls are "queer", that they are homosexual?


WIth other stories about his drinking and Laura leaving, I'd say that the bunker mentality is in fool force.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:49 PM
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10. I sound like this sometimes
...when I'm drunk, only more intelligent!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 05:04 PM
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13. cheers.
the man is effin weirding out.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 04:52 PM
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11. More samples of his imbecilic riffing here:
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/04/20/bush/index.html?source=rss

On his decision to go to war in Iraq: "The hardest decision a president makes is to ask those men and women to go into harm's way. My decision making was deeply affected by the attack of September the 11th, 2001. It was a -- it was a moment that defined a dangerous world to me with absolute clarity. I realized then that this country was no longer invulnerable to attack from what may be happening overseas.

"I realized that there is an enemy of the United States that is active and is lethal. At further study of that enemy, I realized that they share an ideology, that these weren't -- that the -- and when you really think about it, the September the 11th attack was not the first attack ... This enemy is smart, capable, and unpredictable. They have defined a war on the United States, and I believe we're at war. I believe the attack on America made it clear that we're at war. I wish that wasn't the case. Nobody ought to ever hope to be a war president, or a presidency -- a president during war. But that's how I see the world."

On the threats facing America: "A lesson learned was that, at least in my opinion, that in order to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them elsewhere so we don't have to face them here. In other words, if what happens overseas matters to the United States, therefore, the best way to protect us is to deal with threats overseas. In other words, we just can't let a threat idle; we can't hope that a threat doesn't come home to hurt us."

On the global war on terrorism: "Now we're involved in -- I call it a global war against terror. You can't call it a global war against extremists, a global war against radicals, a global war against people who want to hurt America; you can call it whatever you want, but it is a global effort ... The decision to remove Saddam Hussein was a difficult decision, I think a necessary decision. If you want to talk about that later on, we can."

...

On success in Iraq: "If the definition of success in Iraq or anywhere is no suicide bombers, we'll never be successful. We will have handed al-Qaida 'that's what it takes' in order to determine whether or not these young democracies, for example, can survive. Think about that: If our definition is no more suiciders, you've just basically said to the suiciders, 'Go ahead.'"
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:40 PM
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15. This part of his remarks
is receiving absolutely NO coverage in the Miami Valley press. The Dayton Daily News correspondent wrote solely about his "sober" discussion :spray:. http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2007/04/19/ddn042007bush.html
The Troy Daily News article talks about how "personable" and "sincere" Miami Countians thought he is :rofl: :puke:.
http://www.tdn-net.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=3&ArticleID=70724
To its credit, the TDN (my hometown newspaper, even though I haven't lived there in years) does have an article about the protesters.
http://www.tdn-net.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=3&ArticleID=70726
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 06:50 PM
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16. As I have written many times this man has some form of
brain damage.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:20 PM
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17. How does a rug reflect optimism?
Is that part of some sort of New Age color healing system with Aura-Soma, chakras and the like? How can rug be anything more than just a rug? Yet Bush says the rug has the capability of speech:

"...Mr. Bush began his remarks with a story about how the White House concierge asked him, on the day before his first inauguration, what kind of rug he wanted for the Oval Office and, enlisting the help of his wife, he said, “Make sure the rug says, ‘Optimistic person comes to work.’ ..."

Remember Bush's speech in Romania when a rainbow appeared overhead? In several speeches after that, Bush kept referring to the "rainbow speech" and the fact that the rainbow spoke to him, sending a message of peace. What is it with inanimate objects and natural phenomena having voices?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:34 PM
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18. it's call being delusional
next thing you know Barney will tell him to invade New Zealand
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:42 PM
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20. Something we all expect from those that frequent Bars from 4 PM to 4 AM...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:56 PM
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21. Holy Schmoley! Tipp City is 3 miles down the road.
Maybe I should start reading the local paper again, but I'm too busy plucking chickens at the factory.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:12 PM
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23. Calling Dr. Frank!
Calling Dr. Justin Frank - STAT!
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