Afghanistan is the rock on which the former USSR fell, and broke into pieces

[Lerkfish]

we would be wise to remember that.

[Frosty1]

1. We helped finance it

thats how we got into all this to start with.

we would be wise to remember that.

[sandnsea]

2. Yes, WE financed and organized it

It would be wise to remember that, all the way around. The USSR argument is stupid.

The blowback from Reagan's proxy wars, all over the damn world otoh, is something we should talk about a lot more often.

[Lerkfish]

5. why is the USSR argument stupid, exactly?

I"m curious.

I edited to add:

the same terrain and cultural remoteness and power feudalism that made Afghan a loser for USSR will remain a problem, regardless of the fact that the US was using Osama to fight in Afghanistan back in the day.

so I'm not sure why this is a stupid argument.

[sandnsea]

3. hiccup

[Lerkfish]

4. Forgetfulness and wisdom are enemies.

[joecool65]

6. We supplied the Afghans with the hammer and training on how to use it to help break the USSR

Without our help, as well as numerous other countries, do you really believe a bunch of in-bred hillbillies could have defeated the Soviet army? No way, no how.

Let's stop our mythical hero worship of a bunch of in-bred hillbillies who were getting crushed by the Soviets before massive international assistance arrived, as well as Pakistani special forces and their air force's role in the conflict.

[tekisui]

7. Those 'in-bred hillbillies' are stale mating our military.

[Lerkfish]

8. They seem to be doing well against our non-hillbilly forces

have you ever looked at a topological map of afghanistan?




the terrain favors "hillbillies" vs. conventional forces.

Just like the Vietnam jungles favored the indigent forces vs. the invading force.