Tiger Woods says he has let his family down and regrets "transgressions"

[sabra]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

BREAKING NEWS: Tiger Woods says he has let his family down and regrets "transgressions"

[rurallib]

1. send him to Afghanistan!

[Renew Deal]

4. lol

:rofl:

[tomm2thumbs]

127. it's not that he let his family down, it's that he let his willy up...

[panAmerican]

9. He might WISH for that instead of having Elin take him to the cleaners

:rofl:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

74. Live on 50 million a year or go to Afghanistan. Hmmmm. Hard choice.

[erpowers]

125. $100 Million

Tiger Woods currently makes $100 million per year.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

145. The reference was to Elin taking him to the cleaners (possibly taking 1/2).

[CatWoman]

2. you know, I grew up watching my parents fight

and I'm glad Tiger chose to leave when he and his wife were fighting, rather than to fight back and/or hit her.

[rurallib]

7. I grew up being the punching bag for my mother after the fight.

there definitely are worse outcomes than they had.

[Kalyke]

19. I wish he'd chosen to leave before he cheated on his wife.

He's done nothing but hurt his wife and kids by putting her in the untenable position to either stay with him for the kids and be miserable and never fully trust him again or leave, build a new life without having to live with a cheat, but risk having the kids get far less of the benefits that they would be afforded in a two-parent household.

If you want to sleep around, don't get married or get a divorce or marry someone of like mind who wants to be in an open marriage.

Pretty simple.

[CatWoman]

31. good post

:thumbsup:

[AspenRose]

38. It really is that simple.

+1

[niceypoo]

59. Yes, divorce is always the answer

...to every difficulty

[TorchTheWitch]

121. it's better than cheating

If you can't be committed in a committed relationship then get out of it first.

[niceypoo]

135. No, it isnt better than cheating

It is worse than cheating.

[Big Blue Marble]

137. Wrong. N/T

[niceypoo]

141. OK, you win, divorce is always the answer

No thinking necessary, gotcha.

Personally, I would try to work it out, but Im weird like that.

[dustbunnie]

142. I agree with you niceypoo that divorce isn't always the answer.

Some people can forgive and work through it. Other partners acknowledge they may both be to blame for the one's infidelity. Some have been together for so long it would hurt more to break up. There are lots of reasons why people might make the right decision to stay.

[erpowers]

130. Agreed

I do not see why some of this athletes get married and then spend years cheating on their wives. If they want to sleep with whatever is out there then they should just stay single until they are willing to be in a committed relationship.

[SoCalDem]

3. "Mom's on the roof"..

:rofl:

dribble dribble dribble..

and next the divorce..

Tiger's gonna end up a neutered little kitty-cat..

[cbdo2007]

5. Wow, I guess he really is human after all.

[seabeyond]

52. no. he lacks character. we are all human. we dont all lack character. nt

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[cbdo2007]

82. I was commenting more that he's made mistakes in general. Not this one in particular.

He was pretty much untouchable before this. I doubt it will do much to his celebrity. He's still easily the best golfer who ever lived but now has a blemish on his perfectness.

[seabeyond]

86. my post was, fuck the bullshit comment he made and play golf tiger.

that is what he is there for. the rest, bullshit

[niceypoo]

103. You want a simple explaination of the obvious? OK

One reason the human race has survived for hundreds of thousands of years is the fact that nature has 'programmed' men with an urge to penetrate women – and get sperm into them.

That may not sound very warm and fuzzy, but it's the truth. The primary sexual objective of a human male (as with all mammals) is to get his dick inside a woman – and to inject his semen into her.

And even though many male humans succeed in being faithful to their partners, the scientific truth is that males are really 'programmed' to inseminate as many attractive (or unattractive, if need be) females as possible.

The fact of the matter is that the human race has survived in the main because primitive men went round fertilising a lot of women – thus ensuring the continuance of the species.

Is it clearer now?

[seabeyond]

110. so, men can control, which is my point from your original post. women fuckin every alpha male

she could find during cycle to be sure to get impreg. that being her goal. so at that time of the month she would be fuckin 24/7 any alpha male that walked by sniffing (sorry if offends you sensitivities) seeing how sperm doesnt always connect. and seeing how she was given ability to multiple orgasms, would incline one to believe it is about doing it often.

beta male would be raising those babies. no sex. they dont qualify.

so all the men that are only betas, .... pushing this shit, is really just being repetitive in saying they dont get any

[niceypoo]

111. Wow, you need to introduce me to some of these women...

...Im lucky if I get it twice a week.

[seabeyond]

112. if you never see a woman wanting sex, you have to ask yourself..... nt

[niceypoo]

138. Hmmmmm

All women dont want to have sex with me, thus no women ever want to have sex with me. Wow, that is a leap of logic if there ever was one.

...again with the personal attacks.

[Caliman73]

123. That is pseudo science.

Both genders are programmed to procreate. Both genders are programmed to enjoy sexual stimulation. The clitoris is infinitely more sensitive than the penis as a sex organ. We have socialized to pair bond and develop monogamous partnerships. Men may be "wired" for variety, but we are not slaves to our impulses. There is no scientific truth, their is speculation based on certain evidence, but intelligent people know that scientific evidence can and has been used to justify many behaviors that are not beneficial or evolutionarily necessary anymore.

[proteus_lives]

133. You are right.

Cheating shows deep, deep character flaws.

1. If you cheat, you don't respect your partner.

2. If you cheat, it's not for the sex. It's either because ego: you do it because you think you can. Or because you need validation.

Either way, it's a shitty thing to do to another person.

[ipaint]

6. Hopefully those two little kids he has

will get a break from listening to their parents bullshit for a bit anyway.

[left coaster]

14. Drue that!

The only time there was peace in my childhood home was when my dad was out of town on business.. otherwise it was a non-stop battle field, I swear..

Hell is for children, as the song says..

[cbdo2007]

8. Full text of statement:

Tiger Woods has just released the following statement on his website:

"I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves. I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone.

Although I am a well-known person and have made my career as a professional athlete, I have been dismayed to realize the full extent of what tabloid scrutiny really means. For the last week, my family and I have been hounded to expose intimate details of our personal lives. The stories in particular that physical violence played any role in the car accident were utterly false and malicious. Elin has always done more to support our family and shown more grace than anyone could possibly expect.

But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions.

Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult.

I will strive to be a better person and the husband and father that my family deserves. For all of those who have supported me over the years, I offer my profound apology."

[mgcgulfcoast]

10. a tape of woods and his GF has been released

a cocktail waitress he was seeing. he was telling her to change her number fast because woods wife got hold of it.

[NightWatcher]

13. yeah, that was rich, he's toast

[Neecy]

15. Isn't this a second girlfriend?

[tonysam]

37. Yes. n/t

[cbdo2007]

57. The first "girlfriend" though issued a statement that she didn't

have sex with Tiger. She's just a night club owner and is close friends with a lot of celebrities. Maybe she's lying or telling the truth, who knows.

[mgcgulfcoast]

107. that we know of, lol

[blueamy66]

131. See, MRD and I NEVER look at eachothers' phones

He travels alot and if I was either nosy or jealous, I wouldn't survive.

I really do trust him.

for what this is worth :+

[left coaster]

12. Try to imagine that statement coming out of the mouth of a Repub..

..like, oh, say, Sanford? HA! Never in a million years!

Look, everyone does have faults, and people fuck up.. it's a fact.. I respect Mr. Woods, and agree completely with what he has said here with regard to his situation, especially with regard to the privacy issue, etc.. good luck to you and your family, sir.

[WinkyDink]

21. What makes you think it wasn't?

[KamaAina]

83. Because if it was, it'd have been a "youthful indiscretion"

not a "transgression". :P

[Iggo]

94. I thought you meant...

..."What makes you think it wasn't" coming out of the mouth of a Repub.

[Iggo]

23. You want privacy? Keep it in the house.

It spills out on the street and it ain't private no more...know'm say'n?

[Kalyke]

24. I have absolutely NO respect for Cheater Woods.

Millions of young boys and men look up to him. His "transgressions" (HA!) just reiterate to these young men that it's OK to cheat on your wife.

I hope Elin divorces his ass so quickly his head spins.

I'm tired of the wives (and some husbands) of famous people looking like cowering, rejected idiots by "standing by their man." It shames me as a woman.

[niceypoo]

66. Men and boys

Don't look to golfers for sexual guidance.

[left coaster]

117. Exactly! nt

[Shell Beau]

85. If you want to call working through issues as standing by your man, you

are being closed minded. Just because you left your cheating husband doesn't mean that everyone else has to. And you can be ashamed all you want. What good does that do?

[cbdo2007]

92. Good point. Many times, divorce can be way worse than a cheating spouse.

Tiger's getting dragged through the mud now pretty bad for someone who doesn't' have a lot of mistakes in his public persona. If he really learns a lesson from this and changes his ways, that woudl be way better for the kids than breaking the family apart and making them go through all of that. Luckily they're small enough now that I doubt they even know any of this is going on.

[left coaster]

116. I respect his taking responsibility publicly..

Not for what he's done or hasn't done with regard to his marriage.. that is not my business, really.. and yes, he made it public so to speak, by wrecking his SUV while fleeing his home.. however, he didn't go to the press and say, hey, look, I cheated on my wife, she found out, and then she tried to brain me with one of my golf clubs!

And if anyone is looking to a celeb or overpaid, lionized pro athlete as a moral role model, well that says more about what's wrong with American culture than anything else..


The media just loves this kind of sleazy shit, and idiot Americans lap it up like cream.. I myself could give two rat's testicles what Tiger Woods, or any celeb/athlete/or even the couple next door does or doesn't do in their private lives.. I do feel for children in these situations, because they are the victims here, but I am not going to jump on the self-righteous judgement wagon here!

[RobinA]

48. Here's My Thing

I think these cheatin' celebrities/Presidents deserve privacy. But what is it going to take for these idiots to realize that they ARE going to get caught, and they ARE going to be tabloid fodder and late night comedy jokes for a long, long time to come.

Clinton, Edwards, Tiger to name a few. Smart guys all. Sooo dumb. His wife found his cell phone? Um...Tiger? You couldn't afford another cell line??? And I'm not condoning cheating, but it seems that they just can't help themselves, the lack of morality speaks for itself. That said, why are they so stupid when it comes to covering their tracks? Or embarking in the first place on this path to destruction. Do they really think that THEY are going to be the one exception, the one time the tabloids slip up?

[cbdo2007]

64. Right. He was flaunting it too. There's pictures on TMZ of him with the girlfriend

in a club at 1:30 a few months ago. Like...really, Tiger wtf man???? You're in a night club at 1:30am with a hot woman who isn't your wife??

I'm actually surprised it took this long for it to come out.

I'm not condoning cheating either...but Tiger Woods literally has hundreds of Millions of $$$$. He could easily have all the flings he wants without people finding out about them but you're right - using his own cell phone??? Going to clubs??? He just completely let his guard down and maybe he wanted to get caught to be so brazen about it.

[pokerfan]

11. "Hey, it’s, uh, it’s Tiger...."

“Hey, it’s, uh, it’s Tiger. I need you to do me a huge favor. Um, can you please, uh, take your name off your phone. My wife went through my phone. And, uh, may be calling you. If you can, please take your name off that and, um, and what do you call it just have it as a number on the voicemail, just have it as your telephone number. That’s it, OK. You gotta do this for me. Huge. Quickly. All right. Bye.”

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34174324/ns/sports-golf/

[Missy Vixen]

45. It's a bitch when he steps on his dick, isn't it?

If Elin Woods is smart, revenge is a dish served cold. I don't think she'll write a book, but he's about to find out what happens when one's carefully-constructed public image explodes. Evidently, she had proof, she confronted him, he tried to damage control re: not meeting with the cops, etcetera, and the blowback has already started.

I just hope she didn't sign a pre-nup.

:eyes:

[Shell Beau]

65. Why are people wanting her to take him to the cleaners?

What about working through their problems? Divorce divorce divorce!!!! He did a sucky ass thing. But they need to do what is best for them and their children. Many people forgive unfaithful spouses. Instead of jumping on the divorce bandwagon, I hope they can get help and work through this. Who knows what goes on in their marriage.

[Missy Vixen]

102. You're right, we don't know

I can't imagine being able to trust any cheating spouse again, though -- and this doesn't appear to be just one woman. It's multiple women, one of which he evidently saw over a 33-month period.

I feel sorry for his wife. After all, the only thing that's going to make an impression on him is losing A LOT of money, not to mention the fact his sponsors will start backing away, too.

[Amaya]

106. totally agreed

divorce sucks

[RobinA]

139. Yeah, I Hate This

"woman scorned" meme. Why should she get his money because he cheated on her? He made his money playing golf, not by being above reproach. If there is a divorce in a case like this, he pays some child support, she walks away like a grown-up with what she came in with. Same as if they found they just couldn't get along. What pride is there in taking him for a zillion $$$$? That whole line of thinking is so pre-equality.

As far as working it out...I mean, did anyone really think the whole thing was going to last anyway? Super rich celebrity guy marries blonde model girl. Yep, THAT has a track record of success.

[undeterred]

169. There's a major pre-nup and she will collect millions.

This wasn't a one time slip up. He's cheated many times during the first few years of his marriage while they were starting a family together. His children are babies. He has no self control. And he signed the agreement before they were married- it stipulates a payoff if he cheats.

[SidDithers]

47. Not only a cheater, but a dumb cheater...nt

Sid

[Shell Beau]

91. Is there a smart one?

[AngryAmish]

128. THe girlfriend phone

Never call the girlfriend on a phone that your wife could get at it.

[Nye Bevan]

50. "Take your name off your phone"?

What does that even mean? :shrug:

[Mike Daniels]

53. Probably means to get an "unlisted" number

so that the call shows as "unknown" on the caller ID.

[RoadRage]

67. I think it means to take her name off of her voicemail...

Instead of "Hi, this is Rachel and I can't get to my phone right now".. he wanted her to change it to "Hi, you've reached 863-555-5555 and I can't get to my phone right now"...

[TicketyBoo]

95. Except…

this one's name is Jamie.

[RoadRage]

134. Thanks for the details... ;)

[RobinA]

143. I Figured

it means he doesn't know how to use his cell phone and thinks the OTHER person controls whether her name shows up on HIS phone when she calls, or when he calls her. Only thing I can think. Either that or he means she should take her name off her voicemail so when wife dials girlfriend's number she doesn't get girlfriend's name from the recording.

[TicketyBoo]

148. On most phones

you can choose to be unidentified by name on other people's caller i.d.

That's what I took his request to her to mean. He wanted her to set her phone so that her name wouldn't show up on caller i.d.

[Iggo]

16. None o' my bid nit.

[Fumesucker]

17. I have deep personal reasons for really detesting adulterers.

I hope she takes his ass to the cleaners..

[Shell Beau]

18. I admire Tiger as an athlete.

I hope he and his wife can work through this. I understand he wants his privacy, but in today's world that ain't gonna happen.

[Kalyke]

26. You want his wife to have to live with his sorry cheating ass?

Why?

If more spouses would take their cheating mates to the cleaners in a divorce case, then less of this shit would happen and more children would grow up happier.

[jakefrep]

35. Divorce doesn't = happy kids

How Tiger and his wife choose to proceed (or not) with their relationship is their business and theirs alone.

[Kalyke]

60. Of course it's their business - but it's public fodder.

However, he should not have put her in the position to have choose either to live with his disrespectful, cheating ass for the kids' sake and never fully trust him again or to divorce him so that she can be healthy again, but possibly hurt the kids. The kids will be hurt either way because of him. Either their family will break apart or they will witness the ferocious pain their mother will now suffer through because he chose to disregard their vows and leave her feeling inadequate (and that will happen - it's human nature).

HE'S the problem, but he's made his wife now have a BIG problem she didn't deserve. He disrespected their marriage vows, he disrespected his wife and he disrespected his kids.

The poster to whom I was responding said he/she hoped they would work it out. I said I thought it was awful of said poster to wish that on Elin because of the life-long pain she'll have to endure by living with a man who has proven to be untrustworthy. I don't know how women used to do that when divorce wasn't a viable option. I'd hate my life.

In so far as "it's their business," well, yes and no. Their decisions are theirs, true, but I find it disgusting that the millions of young men and boys who look up to Tiger will get the message that they can cheat on their wives, break their promises, hurt their kids and move on. If Elin divorces him, maybe these young men will see that there are consequences to certain behaviors.

[Shell Beau]

71. Well obviously you are a woman scorned, but it doesn't work that

way for all people. You don't know what problems they had in their marriage. Cheating was wrong regardless, but that doesn't mean this can't be worked out. Maybe it couldn't for you, but your experience is not the same as everyone else's. And she should only try to work it out with him if she wants to and can.

[seabeyond]

76. i have never been "scorned" in my life, lol and would walk. nt

[Shell Beau]

80. That is you. You don't speak for every person.

[seabeyond]

87. of course not. but to assume anyone that wouldnt put up with a cheating mate

has been scorned is bullshit. hence my post.

[Shell Beau]

89. No, I know many women and men will leave, myself possibly included.

Can't really say what I would do since I have never been in the situation. I can say what I think I would do, but many people choose to try to work it out. Whether that mean counseling, etc., whatever. I actually said I hope they work through this, which means whatever is best for them. Personally, I'd like the see them work this out. I am not jumping on the divorce his ass and take him to the cleaners bandwagon. If it can be worked out, I hope it is.

[seabeyond]

113. i dont have any dog in the fight.... lol ol. my battles are else where. nt

[TicketyBoo]

98. If you haven't been there

don't try to judge people.

What is best for one is not for another. It's nobody's decision but that of each individual woman, according to her own temperament and tolerance.

[seabeyond]

114. i am not 'judging" anyone. where do you see me "judging". i state what i would do. nt

[TicketyBoo]

147. The inference is

that your way is the only way. It isn't.

[seabeyond]

150. you could say inference, but doesnt make it so. totally my position on self. that isnt clear to

you? cant be any clearer.

i have never been scorned (me, personally. though i am sure many have, i have not)

i would walk. (me. what i would do)

where do you get the story that is saying everyone should do as i

come on. give me a break.

you were wrong.

and the whole point of the post was the poster saying since you feel this, you must have been scorned. i feel this and i have never been scorned. was making a point to that poster. not even talking about tiger

[TicketyBoo]

151. And I am saying

since you've never been scorned, you don't really KNOW what you would do.

It's like those women who say they would never have an abortion who, when all of a sudden put in a position to have to choose, rethink their position.

You just can't know what you would do FOR CERTAIN until you're there.

It's very easy to say what you would or would not do when you've never actually been put in that position.

[seabeyond]

154. it is like people on these threads say, anyone can cheat on spouse

you may never have, but you dont know. you could.

it is to validate and justify their own behavior, giving it to everyone, to feel comforted and better about the choices they made.

anyone can rape. anyone could murder. really, you dont know cause you havent been in the position yet

well i do know better.

i do know what i would do in this event and why i would do it. what i am certain of is you are clueless about what i would do and why i would do it

how arrogant... totally arrogant of you to tell me you know better than i who i am.

sheeesh

first, you go from telling me i am judging because i talk about myself
then you tell me who i am

[TicketyBoo]

156. You are the one who is arrogant

and thinks she knows it all.

Pride goeth before a fall.

I hope you never have to make the decision. If he/she cheats on you, I hope for your sake that you never find out so you can maintain your thinking.

[seabeyond]

159. because i know me well, and you dont know me at all, i am arrogant.... lol

hm

at 60 my father felt bad about himself because he got old, felt less like a man and hired a 20 yr old for two years to play with him to feel like a man

my mom took care of him and us for 40 yrs, giving her all and a really good person

she found out, was devastated and killed herself

my brothers and i lost someone so very dear
my kids and other 5 nephews and nieces lost the love of a grandma
my dad feels guilt for the rest of his life

now.... who do you think has a better handle on the choices i will make.

you, or me.

[TicketyBoo]

162. Neither of us.

Because you have not faced the situation, yourself, with someone you love and trust.

[seabeyond]

164. ahhh ha ha. wow. now you know me so well, you know how i deal with personal issue again

without any information what so ever.

can a person be more a fool

do tell, in all your wisdom, what i havent dealt with. and a non answer on this post shows a coward. you dare to suggest, such an event in a persons life is dismissed so easily with your offensive comment. you tell me, what do i need to deal with, that i have not dealt with.

[TicketyBoo]

165. What are you talking about?

I'm no fool. Been there, done that.

You were talking about your mother, not your own situation.

You are not your mother, obviously.

If you are offended, you are the fool, and an easily offended one, at that.

I have said nothing meant to offend you, certainly.

[seabeyond]

167. ticketyboo, you have jumped the shark. nt

[TicketyBoo]

172. Now, who is the coward?

[seabeyond]

175. how would you like me to post to you telling me i am not a part of my mom's suicide?

i dont even know how to answer that.

[TicketyBoo]

176. I don't know what you mean.

That sentence doesn't make a lot of sense.

"How would you like me to post to you telling me…"

You're going to post to tell yourself something?

Maybe you are too close in time to this event to think clearly?

Having lost my own parents, I know how hard it is, and I'm sure it would be much harder if one of them had chosen to die.

I am sorry for your loss.

[dustbunnie]

158. I don't think that's why they say it.

Some people have a deep understanding of the human condition, or at least, the imagination to perceive the human frailty that lives in all of us to some degree. Understanding doesn't equal condoning.

[seabeyond]

160. but to go beyond that and tell people that regardless of your expereince and knowledge of self

i am going to pin this on you along with every other person on this planet is just wrong.

and unjust

there are people that know well they do not cheat, will never cheat under any circumstance, or murder, or rape or steal. and to dismiss the persons conviction with.... you dont know, is an unjust understanding of fraility fo human condition.

to tell a person that they dont know their own mind and to dismiss their conviction is.... a slight. and arrogant. i would never presume to tell you dustbunny, what you are capable of or not. knowing absolutely nothing about you, the way you think, your experience, the basis of your character, for me to be arrogant ewnough to ignore your words and tell you are wrong about yourself would make me a fool

[dustbunnie]

168. I wouldn't presume to tell you or anyone else what you're capable of either.

I was just responding to your comment that people excuse cheating to comfort themselves. I can't imagine ever cheating on my beloved either, but do understand why others might do it, or even be driven to do it. Life often seems to be a gooey shade of gray, rarely black and white.

[seabeyond]

170. but of course i understand the whys. and i can even do it without judgment

not hard. but in looking at the whys, .... there are still the pesky repercussions that get to be owned.

[TicketyBoo]

97. Nope.

Just because you couldn't get past it doesn't mean that she can't.

Different people have different thresholds of tolerance. I've seen it in my own family.

[Shell Beau]

40. I want them to do what is best for them. None of my business.

If she wants to work it out with him then good, if not ok. Many people forgive unfaithful spouses. Some people believe the children would be happier if they could work it out, me being one of them. Fighting parents in court over money and custody does not = happy children. If there is a lot of fighting in the home that is another issue.

[goclark]

44. My father was always cheating on my Mother

Sometimes I would see her crying and was too young to understand it.

One thing for sure -- my father was always there for her financially and if you didn't know better, they were a happy, normal couple.

And, my father was ALWAYS there for me as well.

My mother is now 91 years old and she often speaks fondly of him and talks about how she misses him and wants to be buried beside him.

She tells me that he was the best father and husband she could have chosen.

I feel the same way, I was never pulled from Mother to Father sharing every other weekend.

We had a HOME and enjoyed all the Holidays and Special Memories together.

When I was about 30 years old, one of his girlfriends called me when she heard he was ill. I had never spoken to her and was surprised that she would even call me.

She said that my father often told her how much his family meant to him and that he would never leave us. She said that she was sorry for any issues that she may have caused and asked if I would forgive her.

I did because she suffered more than we did -- one lesson that it taught me, don't ever be the other woman, it's not that rosy.

Ms. goclark

[Kalyke]

72. Well, I'm happy for you.

I could never stay in a relationship where I was treated like garbage. In fact, I didn't. And my son is healthy, intelligent and happy. But, I got full custody because his father was such a louse.

I hope if you have brothers, they did not learn from your father that "the little woman" will always be around no matter what they do.

Actually, I find your story very sad. I doubt your mother would have said much to you at the time, but I bet she felt incredible pain and suffering and feelings of inadequacy when he was cheating. That's really no way to go through life even if it means a home in which to celebrate holidays.

[goclark]

105. To each his/her own

My Mother had and continues to have a wonderful life.

She always had a loving family and a big support base.

I'm saying that every situation is different and I respect your decision to leave just as I support her decision to stay.

[niceypoo]

Wow, you are quite the cheerleader for 'Divorce is the answer to every problem'

You must be a divorce attorney

[TicketyBoo]

90. Really?

If more spouses would take their cheating mates to the cleaners in a divorce case, then less of this shit would happen and more children would grow up happier.

Without their daddies in the house?

I don't think so. It is possible to forgive, even if you can't forget.

So many people head into an angry (or sorrowful) divorce thinking that the next mate will be perfect. (Hint: there are no perfect people.)

In my opinion, better the devil you know than the one you don't (unless your spouse is beating you up — physically and/or emotionally).

The only one who can tell how much she can bear to put up with is his wife. Why should we even care? It's her life to live.

[thewiseguy]

96. This is not any of your business because it is not up to you to make that decision.

[mgcgulfcoast]

155. she may be leaving with a boatload of dollars

[WinkyDink]

20. "Regrets getting caught" is more like it.

[Kalyke]

29. Yup.

My son thinks he's a creep.

My son's father is no longer married to me because I divorced him for cheating. My son has no respect for cheaters who hurt their families.

[jakefrep]

34. How do you know?

It's none of our business.

[bridgit]

22. It only looks like a long way down from here, this can be what happens...

when celebrities live their entire lives since toddling babies like they are all that and three bags of chips

[rocktivity]

25. I'll tell him what I told Bill Clinton -- Your affair was your business until you publicly denied it

If this isn't the end of his marriage (maybe he'll go the Ensign route and insist that his transgressions have "strengthened" his marriage), it's the end of his super duper stardom. Congrats, Phil Mickelson--you've got your mojo back!

:evilgrin:
rocktivity

[951-Riverside]

27. I have sinned!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg

[ensho]

28. men always say they 'regret', that they are 'sorry', they made a 'mistake'

it will 'never happen again', 'I love only you'.

they are only sorry they got caught.

[spanone]

32. yes and women NEVER cheat

[ensho]

42. we are talking about a man and men - don't change the subject

nt

[SidDithers]

49. No, we are talking about a man only - Tiger...

you're the one talking about men in general.

Sid

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

81. The subject was only Tiger Woods not the men in your past.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

78. Women say the exact same things when they are caught.

Some women and men are probably truly sorry and some are probably only sorry they got caught.

[Fading Captain]

152. They are sorry for the pain it causes when they are caught

Not that they are plain caught.
But proceed with your sexist bashing, if you wish.

[jmm]

30. How is this breaking news?

I don't mean this as a critique on the story being posted in GD but there is nothing breaking about a celebrity regretting transgressions.

[seabeyond]

33. oh bullshit. was sluttin around all over the place. go play golf tiger.... nt

[TwilightGardener]

36. "Mistakes were made..."

[frylock]

39. wish i could listen to jim rome today..

gonna be a good show.

[SidDithers]

56. gr550 out of buffalo streams Romey...

I listen at work.

http://www.wgr550.com/

Sid

[frylock]

118. thanks, Sid

[chatnoir]

41. The other woman to be named shortly...

Reps for Tiger would not comment. But the insider tells Life & Style, "They've hooked up a bunch of times. Tiger told Kalika that married life isn't all it's built up to be. He said he wasn't happy in his marriage or his home life and that there was just so much pressure on him."

More at http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/

[Missy Vixen]

51. Oh, gosh

>Tiger told Kalika that married life isn't all it's built up to be.<

Pooooor Tiger.

Responsibility's a bitch.

:eyes:

[Shell Beau]

55. You also have to remember that comes from a tabloid.

[Missy Vixen]

101. The article at Yahoo was pretty interesting, too

Over 300 texts? Wow, he's in some trouble, isn't he?

[cbdo2007]

68. Mistress already named - you're a little behind

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/01/tiger-woods-us-weekly-jaimee-grubbs-affair-elin-nordegren-voicemail/

Tiger Woods -- New Woman Surfaces
Posted Dec 1st 2009 1:10PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned a woman has come forward to Us Weekly, claiming she had a 31-month affair with Tiger Woods and has a voicemail recording and texts to prove it.

The woman, Jaimee Grubbs, claims she met Tiger in Las Vegas in April, 2007. The woman -- a cocktail waitress who was 21 at the time -- began what she says was a long-running affair with Tiger.

According to Us Weekly, Grubbs has more than 300 text messages from Tiger -- who married Elin Nordegren in 2004.

The magazine, which comes out tomorrow, claims Grubbs had 20 sexual encounters with Tiger. Us Weekly has photos, racy texts from Tiger, as well as a voicemail from November 24, in which Tiger suggests his wife might be on to the alleged affair.

Grubbs has appeared recently on VH1's "Tool Academy."

[chatnoir]

73. The MSNBC mentions a 3rd woman to be named soon

But Grubbs is not the last of the rumored mistresses. Another woman is expected to be named shortly. This one, an employee of the Bank nightclub in Las Vegas, has been in a relationship with Woods only “a couple months,” according to a source who knew of the alleged relationship.

A representative for the Bank nightclub had no comment on the matter, and the woman in question did not respond to messages.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34229226/ns/entertainment-gossip/


The Bank nightclub employee is who I was referring to.


Edited to add link

[jakefrep]

43. He's apologized...now everybody else can fuck off.

[seabeyond]

46. no. nt

[jakefrep]

54. yes. nt

[seabeyond]

58. lol. ya. thats gonna work. recommended just cause of your post. dont give a shit

about tiger, and screwin around but now having fun with thread, ..... cause of your post.

see how well it is working for you

[MilesColtrane]

61. Apparently Elin knows which club to use for a bad lie.

[peekaloo]

75. new meaning for an open face club.

[petronius]

77. LOL! Well played...

Guess he's lucky she didn't take the mashie to his niblicks...

[MadHound]

62. Oh boy, the celebrity obsession of the day

Let's see, what are the facts. Tiger went for a drive very early in the morning, and had a car accident. He has admitted the fault for this, and I'm assuming with pay the fine and reparations for the damage he caused.

Anything else is, at this point, hyperventilating speculation.

If he has cheated on his wife, it is between them and them alone. This is true for any couple, celebrity or otherwise who are having difficulties in their marriage.

But despite the fact that infidelity occurs on a daily, hourly basis, committed by millions of people, give that person the slightest aura of celebrity status and people start going nuts. The cameras start clicking, the rumors start getting mongered, people gossip like a bunch of old hens, clucking and clucking away.

Geez, let these people be, let them work out their problems on their own and stop spreading hyperventilating gossip. I expect to see this kind of behavior in middle school kids, but not among adults. Guess I have high expectations.

[tonysam]

69. I've got a

tiger by the tail it's plain to see
I won't be much when you get through with me
Well I'm a losing weight and I'm turning mighty pale
Looks like I've got a tiger by the tail

[cbdo2007]

70. OMG this is the best - Tiger's Wife Confronts Alleged Mistress in phone call

Tiger's Wife Confronts Alleged Mistress
Posted Dec 2nd 2009 11:50AM by TMZ Staff

Tiger Woods' wife Elin Nordegren placed an angry call to Jaimee Grubbs, Tiger's alleged mistress, confronting her about the alleged affair with her husband.

As we first reported, Grubbs bragged to co-workers at the Stone Rose Lounge in West Hollywood, claiming she was having an affair with Tiger and even playing them the voicemail Tiger left for Jaimee on November 24 -- when he asked her to remove her name from the outgoing message on her voicemail because Elin was becoming suspicious.

Co-workers tell TMZ on Friday -- the day of Tiger's crash -- Jaimee went to work, played the voicemail to co-workers and then later in the evening said she had received a call from a blocked number. Jaimee says she answered and asked who was on the line. Jaimee says the caller -- a woman -- did not identify herself but said, "You know who this is because you're f**king my husband."


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0YYJIGVQW

[tonysam]

84. It sounds to me like Tiger is afraid to give up his billion-dollar fortune

and may end up with only a half-billion or so. That's the main reason these guys stick with their wives even if they no longer love them.

[cbdo2007]

88. I doubt it. Remember it will only take him another 10 years to make that half-billion back.

He's still trying to look like a family man and be a good example and be there for his kids.

He makes money like the rest of us take sh*ts. It makes more sense financially for him to cut his losses with her quickly cause then all the money is his. Not to mention that I'm 100% positive they've got a Prenup cause he was worth Hundreds of Millions $$$ before they got married.

[tonysam]

93. You'd be surprised how bad some rich guys are about money

We don't know what Tiger Woods is like outside of the golf course when it comes to money. He might be generous, he might be a miser.

Rich guys have MURDERED estranged wives because they didn't want to part with "their" money.

[lpbk2713]

79. Seems like I've heard that somewhere else before.

Oh yeah ... now I remember.





:eyes:

[Mudoria]

99. Some quips I've seen about Woods...

Tiger’s driving has always been erratic, hasn’t it?

Post-crash Tiger slammed his steering wheel against the ground and blamed a photographer for snapping a picture in mid-lane change.

So, it looks like Tiger Woods' wife beat him up pretty good. I guess he will keep his woods in his own bag from now on.

You can't blame poor Elin, she was totally baffled as to how Tiger could be DQ'd from a tournament after carding a hole-in-one, until she found out he was playing the wrong hole!

Maybe Tiger should consider moving to a links course, no trees and far fewer water hazards.

Tiger Woods was injured in a car accident as he pulled out of his driveway early Friday morning. It was Woods' shortest drive since an errant tee shot at the US Open.

What does Tiger Woods have in common with a baby seals? They both get clubbed by Norwegiens.

What were Tiger Woods & his wife doing out at 3am? Clubbing.

Did you hear what Tiger Woods' wife did? She made him a TRUE "scratch" golfer.

Did you hear? Tiger Woods hit a fire hydrant the other day in his Escalade? It wasn't his fault, his caddy did scream "playing through."

The PGA tour has decided to replace Tiger Woods in next year's Masters field, citing the tour can not afford this type of behavior from it's players. They have made a safe decision replacing him with John Daly.

Since marrying Tiger, Elin has been interested in taking up golf. But, 2:30am does sound a bit of an odd time though to start hitting your Woods.

Actually, Tiger was in a mad rush to be first in line for the Black Friday Wii special at WalMart.

Phil Mickelson insists he's a better driver than Tiger Woods

[chemenger]

100. Ah, les'see here ...

Tiger Woods married Elin in October 2004. Their daughter, Sam Alexis, was born June 2007. Their son was born February 2009. Reported to have had a 31 month affair with the "other" woman which would place the start of that affair at around June 2007, the same month as the birth of his and Elin's daughter.

Without character ... Yup ... That about says it all. TOTALLY WITHOUT CHARACTER.

[niceypoo]

109. Assuming his wife isn't a total haggard bitch, and he isn't a total haggard prick...

...in their relationship. You never know what happens behind closed doors

My mothers parents divorced when she was like 11. My mom said it was the best thing that could have happened, she said all they did was argue and fight, which affected my mom and aunt negatively. Both parents remarried and ended up in happy stable second marriages.

My mother was so close to her step dad that when my grandmother died, he lived at my mom and dads house until he passed away. Sometimes these things work out in the end.

And I had four sets of grandparents, which was awesome on birthdays and xmas.

[dustbunnie]

120. Yes, that crossed my mind as well.

But this is a celebrity marriage after all, and just like political marriages, the rules are different. If relationship roles are based on the idea that she fulfill the sexy and beautiful "trophy" aspect, while he takes care of the rich and famous part, children coming along can kind of upset the foundation of the relationship.

[yankeeinlouisiana]

104. Arrogance. It's all about arrogance!

Here's the definition:

offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride. exaggerated self-opinion

Exaggerated self-opinion is my favorite. Everyone has hormones, not everyone acts on them. He was arrogant enough to think of himself as so important that he could do whatever he wanted -- hurt his wife and family and wouldn't suffer anything. I guess he, and everyone else who cheats, is wrong!!

[Divine Discontent]

126. his overbearing pride was intolerable. he'd curse & whine every tourney, & berate people, & act too

pompous for anyone I'd support in anything. How sad for that woman, but, wow, how'd she find attraction in his personality that's been shown hundreds of times in interviews, in interpersonal dealings with people at tourneys, and his whining and cursing while playing for over a decade now.

Hopefully, he'll retire in shame.

[chatnoir]

136. ITA. The guy's insufferable.

[Deja Q]

108. It's more morally acceptable to commit infidelity than it is to go bankrupt...

unless you're Donald "the Duck" Trump.

Which is sad, if people bothered to look at the "new economy" and "new normal", where it's impossible to get education, transportation, jack shit without a loan... much less the jobs that don't begin to provide living wages. Some online are even commenting that burger slop(tm) pays more for flipping burgers than to maintain and program databases and ensure their accuracy (a much more critical task that affects the whole company... then again, making a burger improperly makes a bunch of people sick or happily dead...)

[Freddie Stubbs]

115. What's the big deal? Lost of people get into car crashes

[frylock]

119. so once again, the enquirer was correct

[goclark]

124. They may not have had the complete story but they had a piece

Celebrities think they can get around the Enquirer because it is a Rag.

The Enquirer can make life a mess for so many and yet, they sure got Tiger's attention.

[Holly_Hobby]

153. Yep...Ms. Rachel now says she lied and she DID sleep with him:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/03/tigers-mistress-i-lied-for-him/

The Enquirer strikes again...

[Divine Discontent]

122. liked his cursing, unsportmanslike behavior very very little to begin with - now we see he's

very very unsportsmanlike with relationships - he has two kids and a gorgeous wife!!!!!!!!!!!

pig...

he's a f&cking low life pig.

I hope she takes him for everything - he's the guy that gives men a bad name. Cheating is common, yes, but it's not every relationship. He's a super rich man with means to do whatever he wants - we see what he wants. Not, a marriage to a super gorgeous woman and children that doesn't involve extra-curricular outside sex.

[Shell Beau]

132. Well you're obviously not a fan.

He's an excellent golfer, and I'd hate to see that kind of talent retire. He is still in his prime. His personal life aside, of course, I am a fan of his talent.

[Divine Discontent]

140. he's an amazing golfer slamming the ball around... It really isn't our business what's going on, but

that's just the breaks of being a giant celeb. Seems he's been knocking other balls around, and for that I feel sorry for the lady he married and promised to be faithful to.

[dave29]

129. Thank God I now know all about TIger Wood's private life

I'm not sure how else I could have gotten through the day.

This may be a huge story because of who he is... the real story, as I see it, is the mesmerizing of an entire culture on gossip and info-tainment. People are attracted to seeing others get "caught" -- as most of them themselves will never have to go through a very public "trial" over very private information.

It's voyeurism at it's worst, in my opinion.

[Pisces]

144. Funny tidbit, the #1 googled item today is the definition of transgression. We are living in

the age of morons who think the Enquirer is equal to the New York Times.

[Better Believe It]

146. Who cares? Just play golf. I don't care about his personal life.

[cbdo2007]

149. The answer to the biggest question of all regarding this --- Tiger's wife used a Wedge

to bust out the window. This is priceless!! And it wasn't the back window, it was the rear window behind the driver so that's slightly more plausible than her busting out the back window to get him out. TMZ's got the pictures like usual:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-golf-wedge-suv-window-damage-club/

[Dappleganger]

157. Someone close to me had a lengthy affair and they worked through it.

Their marriage is now stronger than ever (and yes, younger kids were involved). I never really thought that it was possible but if both parties are willing to do whatever it takes to make it work, more power to them.

Since the person who cheated on her husband is a close relative, I view these things differently than before in a more understanding way.

[cbdo2007]

161. Details of their Prenup - Elin only eligible for $20-75 Million and not for another 2 years.

http://www.examiner.com/x-24469-Raleigh-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Tiger-Woods-may-have-to-pay-up-for-his-transgressions

Tiger Woods may have to pay up for his 'transgressions'

Since Tiger Woods has officially admitted to some kind of "transgressions," it is now time to see what his wife, Elin Nordegren, is going to do. Will she stay in the marriage or leave?

Sources have said that for now Elin will remain at her husband's side. But it won't be for nothing. Reports surfaced this morning that the couple may be reworking their prenup agreement. It is stipulated that the couple that Elin may cash in at double what she was initially supposed to get when the agreement was first made after their 2004 wedding.

While the original prenuptial agreement is not public, sources have reported that in the original document Nordegren agreed to that the couple would have to be married for 10-years before she'd be eligible to receive a $20 million settlement.

The new agreement is set to be based on seven years, which means Nordegren would cash in on the $20 million in two years. It has also been reported that Woods' lawyers have offered Nordegren $5 million upfront to remain with Woods. Plus it has been rumored that as much as $55 million has been added to the $20 million, to be paid in staggered amount.

[alarimer]

163. Always a mistake to put ANYONE on a pedestal

NEVER make a hero of ANYONE. Ever. You are bound to be disappointed. There are no heroes or role models. We are all better off just believing in ourselves than to make someone (who clearly does not deserve it) a hero. Especially in essentially meaningless occupations like sports or entertainment.

[goldcanyonaz]

166. Apparently his "transgressions" were long term relationships.

From reports it appears that other women are coming out of the wood"s"work because they thought they were the only ones he was cheating on his wife with.

I feel so badly for his wife. It's one thing for your spouse to cheat but it's another for the entire world to know.

[Shell Beau]

171. I am sure his wife is pretty humiliated.

It is bad enough when you live in a small town where gossip spreads like wildfire, but I can't imagine the gossip spreading like wildfire across the world. I understand them wanting their privacy. I sure would too, but not gonna happen in today's times.

[goldcanyonaz]

174. I agree.

There are reports that not only he had long term affairs but talked to his girlfriends about his wife and family.

I would be both humiliated and angry as hell.

[Skittles]

173. I see Tiger digs really classy women

that man has always creeped me out