You lost me at 9/11. The only Presidential candidate getting my vote in 2012

[shadowknows69]

Is an anti-war Primary challenger, and I'll write them in when they lose. I'm done selling my soul to this party.

[Renew Deal]

1. Good, can you ask Skinner to ban you now?

[wndycty]

2. Plus 100,000

:kick:

[Bluebear]

4. oooh make it 200,000

:silly:

[krawhitham]

[phone]

[cliffordu]

24. Yeppers.

[shadowknows69]

5. Ban your fucking self I'm not breaking any rules.

[Robb]

11. Indeed, self-important tooth-gnashing is allowed. nt

[Renew Deal]

15. You don't support the Democrat in an election

:hi:

[shadowknows69]

Reading comprehension problems tonight?

[Renew Deal]

23. Not at all

Read your post...

You lost me at 9/11. The only Presidential candidate getting my vote in 2012
Is an anti-war Primary challenger, and I'll write them in when they lose. I'm done selling my soul to this party.

[shadowknows69]

30. Yep I won't vote for any Democratic candidate that continues to support these wars

If there aren't any I won't vote. Doesn't break any rules here.

[Renew Deal]

32. Good, ask for your cookie now.

[shadowknows69]

39. Don't want to leave the site, and I'm betting there's several who want me here too.

But you can always use your ignore button.

[Renew Deal]

48. I want you here.

:pals:

[arcadian]

37. Papers and loyalty checks?

That's what this site has become?

[Ignis]

53. We're pretty quick with the frogmarch tonight, too.

Even when it's all the results of knee-jerk tribalism by party "loyalists" who are too fucking stupid to understand that a primary challenger would be another Democrat.

But my papers are indeed in order, just in case. :hi:

[krawhitham]

28. Rule #2

2. Who We Are: Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office

[Name removed]

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[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

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[shadowknows69]

49. Wow, with ESP like that you should play the lottery.

[Hissyspit]

50. Delete nt

[NYC Liberal]

6. Really. If you aren't going to vote for the Democratic candidate

in 2012, then get the fuck off of Democratic Underground.

[shadowknows69]

8. Um where did I say I wasn't voting for a Democrat exactly?

You do know what a Primary challenger is right?

[NYC Liberal]

18. "and I'll write them in when they lose"

Do you not read your own posts?

[shadowknows69]

25. I will write in a democratic primary challenger.

Like many who are still on this board said they would with Hilary and Dennis. Alert away if I'm breaking rules I'm sure Skinner will be on it.

[NYC Liberal]

35. "when they lose"

When they lose WHAT?

[arcadian]

41. You're name says you are a liberal but can you prove it?

Papers please... :eyes:

[shadowknows69]

47. +1

:thumbsup:

[shadowknows69]

45. Ok, I'll walk you through it. When an anti-war Primary challenger like DK runs again

I will vote for him. In the Primary. Are you still with me? Good. Next, because peace sells, but no one is really buying DK et al will lose again and then, as is my right as a voter, I will write his name on my ballot anyway. You're welcome.

[NYC Liberal]

Thanks for confirming that you will vote AGAINST

the Democratic nominee.

Rules: "You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee."

There is also the expectation that you "support Democratic candidates for political office." Which means primaries are fine but after that either support the Democratic nominee here, or you're going against the rules.

Do what you want.

[shadowknows69]

56. Then I guess he can ban me in 2012 when he has proof I voted against Obama

Oh that's right. My ballot is secret. Shit, too bad for you.

[NYC Liberal]

61. Never said I wanted you banned.

*I* said that if you aren't going to support the Democratic nominee, there's little point in spending your time on a website dedicated to supporting that nominee.

[newspeak]

81. it is his vote

he has the right to vote for another DEMOCRAT who he thinks represents his ideals. What's your problem? I've gone through elections, where my first choice has been withdrawn, then my second and grudgingly I'd vote for the one left (the least choice usually). There is nothing wrong for voting, even if it's a write in, the one candidate who most mirrors your ideals. He didn't say he was going to vote for a repug.

[shadowknows69]

85. Also, you may have noticed, that politics is not the only thing discussed on this board.

I frequent several groups that I like. I'm about ready to become completely apolitical the way things are going, but I've made friends here I plan on staying around to keep in contact with. If that's alright with you?

[Walk away]

12. +1

[Bluebear]

20. This is not Obama Underground nor is it the Obama Party

[NYC Liberal]

22. "and I'll write them in when they lose"

Right in the OP.

OP is sure a primary challenger will lose and says they WILL vote against the Democratic nominee (aka Obama).

[Thickasabrick]

29. + kajillion

[dusmcj]

72. like you owned the place. Take your own advice. Very NYC of you. /nt

[still_one]

26. Maybe you don't understand the rules. He is simply stating he will vote for liberal

progressive people, not wanting to escalate a war

[Renew Deal]

31. "I'm done selling my soul to this party."

[Ignis]

44. And? (nt)

[krawhitham]

36. And he stated he will not vote for Obama who will be the ONLY democratic candidate for president

In the General Election


You lost me at 9/11. The only Presidential candidate getting my vote in 2012 Is an anti-war Primary challenger, and I'll write them in when they lose. I'm done selling my soul to this party.

[still_one]

66. So. This isn't the "Democrat" underground, it is the DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND /nt

[Thickasabrick]

34. Jesus Christ. Do you want this entire board to be Obamabots? nt

[Bluebear]

51. Yes. That is EXACTLY the aim.

[Renew Deal]

52. We're all Obamabots now

and we have been since Hillary conceded last June.

[shadowknows69]

68. Wrong chief. I'm still just an American in the Democratic Party.

And my elected officials have to earn my continued support.

[SammyWinstonJack]

90. WRONG. We all are not Obamabots, thankfully.

[QC]

75. Yes. That's precisely what they want. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

87. That is the goal, me thinks.

:puke:

[Ignis]

38. Only if you don't understand the word "Primary."

Oh, you can hit Alert all you want, but he did nothing against the rules.

[WeDidIt]

71. +1

:thumbsup:

[goldcanyonaz]

96. + 1,000,000,000

[WilliamPitt]

97. For promising to vote for a Democrat?

"...anti-war Primary challenger..."

Anyone running against Obama in the primaries is going to be a Democrat.

So.

[polichick]

3. I do think there will be a primary challenger. nt

[Renew Deal]

13. Someone like Lee Mercer perhaps?

[polichick]

17. Someone who strongly believes in Democratic principles I hope. nt

[Robb]

7. Allow me to clutch my pearls and rend garments over your announcement.

:eyes:

[Mz Pip]

9. Primary challenger???

Maybe you can write in Santa Claus.

[shadowknows69]

16. I bet he'd bring us peace.

[WonderGrunion]

79. Not according to Weird Al

Down in the workshop all the elves were making toys
For the good Gentile girls and the good Gentile boys
When the boss busted in, nearly scared 'em half to death
Had a rifle in his hands and cheap whiskey on his breath
From his beard to his boots he was covered with ammo
Like a big fat drunk disgruntled Yuletide Rambo
And he smiled as he said with a twinkle in his eye
"Merry Christmas to all - now you're all gonna die!"

The night Santa went crazy
The night Saint Nick went insane
Realized he'd been getting the RAW deal
Somethin' finally must've snapped in his brain

Well, the workshop is gone now, he decided to bomb it
Everywhere you'll find pieces of Cupid and Comet
And he tied up his helpers, and he held the elves hostage
And he ground up poor Rudolph into reindeer sausage
He got Dancer and Prancer with an old German Luger
And he slashed up Dasher just like Freddy Krueger
And he picked up a flamethrower and he barbecued Blitzen
And he took a big bite and said "It tastes just like chicken!"

Santa's one bad motherfu..."Shut yo Mouth, That's Santa you're talkin' about"

[shadowknows69]

86. Lol, I remember that one.

[fishnfla]

10. bye bye now

:hi:

[shadowknows69]

54. Sorry, still here. Skinner must be busy tonight.

[meisje]

14. I'd vote for one of the members of Jackass at this point!

Well, not Steveo

[AngryOldDem]

21. How about Wee Man? n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. i am not for the escalation of this war either but 9/11 started this war

to not mention it when talking about this war seems a little silly

[spanone]

27. this site is dedicated to the party you're done with.....bummer

[Hissyspit]

42. Delete nt

.

[shadowknows69]

60. I've been a Democrat for 22 years. Not changing parties.

And it wouldn't matter if I did. Republicans can vote for Democrats and are allowed on this site even, but you knew that.

[debbierlus]

40. The democratic party is breaking in two tonight

[Horse with no Name]

55. I'd like to step to the side that has the REAL Democrats please

these faux-pro-corporate warmongers can have THEIR own party.

[Ignis]

58. Hell, they already have TWO, it seems. (nt)

[Posteritatis]

57. Or DU is, anyway. (nt)

[Renew Deal]

59. You must be very happy

[HipChick]

43. It doesn't matter if they run on anti-war to get your vote

When they get in, it's a totally different matter..

[shadowknows69]

62. Sadly, true that.

[Bushknew]

63. Welcome to the club.

[tjwash]

64. Voting for Ron Paul?

[still_one]

67. No where did he say he would vote for ron paul /nt

[MisterP]

65. but what if the wrong

cat gets in?

[me b zola]

69. In 2012 we will be out of Iraq

and will be in the middle of the withdrawl from Afghanistan. Will you be voting against President Obama because you're mad at him that he didn't end the war the way that you liked?

By the end of Obama's second term, he will have ended two wars that he didn't begin.

[shadowknows69]

70. Yeah, well I'm pretty sure he'll make it look like he is.

Until right after we re-elect him, then "the situation on the ground" will change suddenly. I've seen this movie before.

[me b zola]

73. Is that what he is doing in Iraq?

Did he respond to some of the increased violence there after the withdraw began as an excuse to stay?

[shadowknows69]

74. You tell me? A friend of mine and 5,000 of his buddies were just sent there.

I'll ask him for you if he can get to a computer.

[me b zola]

78. The have to continue to rotate the numbers that are still there

I haven't heard of any increases to troop levels there, although I could be wrong.

I really believe that Obama will end both wars.

[shadowknows69]

80. So how is a rotation a withdrawal? I thought we were withdrawing from Iraq?

[liquid diamond]

76. Awwww.

The deaths of over 3,000 Americans not enough to hunt our enemies in Afghanistan?

[shadowknows69]

77. And the fact we've killed well over 3,000 civilians there

And Gods knows how many hundreds of thousands in Iraq hasn't balanced those scales yet? So we're going to keep sending the bad guys bodies? That's our grand avenging plan? Fuckin brilliant. We have the moral high ground of a sewer rat.

[liquid diamond]

91. Iraq has fuck all to do with Afghanistan.

Obama said repeatedly in his speech tonight that we are going after Al-Qaeda. But your position is bedrock. Nothing will satisfy you or your trouble-making ilk. I'll leave you to your misery.

[shadowknows69]

93. My trouble making ilk. I feel special now.

Always wanted to be a troublemaker. Usually means you're doing something right.

[tnlefty]

83. Good Gawd. I saw a huge sticker that covered the back windshield

of a car here in RED state America a few years ago that read, "3,000 Americans to 600,000...not enough yet."

I really never expected to see anything close to that sentiment expressed here, but dayuuummnn if I didn't.

'Other' civilians don't count I guess.

[SammyWinstonJack]

92. Seriesly?

:wow:

[SammyWinstonJack]

82. K&R

[Richardo]

84. Really, who gives a crap?

Everyone have your tantrums, leave, or both. Buncha fucking dramadaries.

[shadowknows69]

89. May I direct you to your ignore button or would we like the hide thread function tonight?

Someone have a gun to your head to read my posts? Because there are other errands I could use a guy like that for if you could free him up for me.

[Richardo]

94. It's just so tiresome.

So I reserve my right to point that out.

[shadowknows69]

95. Recognized.

[bvar22]

88. If Hillary has voted AGAINST the Iraq War...

...she would be President Clinton today.

I also will NOT vote FOR anyone supporting this insanity.
Warmongering has its consequences.
Ask Hillary.