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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:42 PM Original message |
Do people here really expect Obama's policy in Afghanistan |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. So. You think it can be "won". What praytell is a "win"? Define it please. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. i'm not in favor of staying there, but i guess i could define a "win" as being to leave the place |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If the current government cannot be empowered to keep the nutters out of control... |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. I'm sure wiping everyone out |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Obama is looking to "work with" the Taliban |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Slippery slope re "the critics here would blame Obama" |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. what i clearly mean is, people will complain what he does either way. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. That's when you need a clear moral and ethical compass |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. but people on both sides of the compass will believe they are right |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. What do you think Obama is thinking about? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. We did win |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. not having a massive blood bath |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. That 'bloodbath' is unavoidable...in 3...6...9...whatever years |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. You want mission objectives defined BEFORE we surge? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Right you are. We can't leave until we have the drug routes firmly established and under acceptable |
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icee2 (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Yessir. CIA needs $ from drug ops for their own ops. nt |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. It isn't about who's in charge. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Your graphic pretty clearly steps over a line. Enjoy your outrage, typing away on DU. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I'd say the graphic is challenging, and forces one to consider an argument/assertion. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. How I remember this with LBJ. He sunk his 2nd term presidency chance on this one. n/t |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. You want more coherent and effective imperial wars of conquest? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. straw man. you have it. |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. I don't think anyone here takes you seriously anymore |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama's policy will *sound* better, sure. But the war effort alone might be inept by nature |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Yes he'll sound better |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. I don't think we are even trying to win anymore |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
11. As long as there remains no clear objective |
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AVID (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. k&r |
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cowcommander (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Then I suggest you start praying if you're religious |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yes they do, because they're invested in the idea of Obama-as-Bush. |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. one of the most insightful comments |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. You're attempting to defend the indefensible. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yes. Obama is not a god. He cannot turn shit into gold. nt |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. I know people with kids there |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I suspect todays anouncement |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. I hope the President has an ace up his sleeve, because from what I |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. The minute we leave, the Taliban will return. Taking some steps to prevent |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. it already is. n/t |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. I'm sure Micheal Jackson |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes a large portion of them do. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
33. Offensive War is not a policy ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. Rec's for sentence one alone! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yes, because it's just what the MIC has ordered President Obama to announce. |
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