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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:48 AM Original message |
The Angst of a Liberal |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oooh, I'm so going to unrec this thread! |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. true dat. My angst comes from a lack of an APPEARANCE of real change |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Nope. Healthcare, DOMA, DADT all have to come from congress |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. well then he should not have indulged in all that self flattery |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. That 'revision of mine' was a direct answer to the person I was replying to |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
53. RaleighNCDUer, I hate to be the one who clues you in on this, being a fellow Tarheel and all, |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. That's because Fox News calls it that - even though it is still in |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Unfortunately you are correct that it's a media construct. We can argue all day about |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. And i guess we will just have to disagree on people who behead |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Please explain to me how those things, horrible as they are, are any worse than us |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. When you kill someone in war it is not assassination. And is nothing like |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. When you kill NON-COMBATANTS in war it is ASSASSINATION. You are living in a fantasy |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You are conflating different situations and different problems to make |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. "Incidentally, putting more boots on the ground will REDUCE those mistakes and |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Obama also inherited the imperial presidency. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. I couldn't have said it better myself |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. I recommended this.... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. The McClurkin hate preaching was the sign |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. This is comes the closest to expressing my opinion of anything I have read lately |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks, Will. K & R |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. He owes is to the cadets, soon to be officers, to tell them why he is sending them there. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Are you suggesting he make different speeches, one to cater to the |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. I'm suggesting he give the same speech to both audiences. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Which is, ASTONISHINGLY, exactly what he is doing. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Perhaps I wasn't clear. |
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SandWalker1984 (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Bush used soldiers as backdrops, and look where it got us. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. I'm withholding judgement until I hear what he has to say. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. K n R |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. He's an incalculable improvement |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. Great article. nt |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
15. As the Political World Twirls ....same shit different eon.... |
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zippy890 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. summed up my feelings |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. This should be titled the "Weakness of a Liberal" |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Reflection is not a vice. |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. This is not about your credentials. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Says the man grandstanding with words. |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. See below.. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Hey |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. My agenda does not matter... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. That's right |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. There is a difference between a wish list and promises not kept. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. So, you quit? |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Good try on the quit thing. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Quoting you: |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Maybe to you. Seeing it pragmatically |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. now |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. We'll be fighting in the streets |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. Indeed |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Well done, Will. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
22. What Else To Say?? How About Reality Is Often Nuanced |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. Hm, well what do you know - it's bigger than a bread basket after all |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. Obama surfed in on a tsunami of hype |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. And, so? |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. "what we were told to expect by the campaign" |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
41. Is it sufficient, ... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. CRH, I'm glad that you feel relieved that the pace of destruction is slower. I wish I shared |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Agree to disagree? ... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Certainly we can agree to disagree. I respect your opinion. On the other hand, it is my |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Points well taken, ... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I agree wholeheartedly, CRH. My problem is that my patience is running thin. Actually, |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. I find myself in a similar place, ... |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
42. K&R |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. The president is one part of the wheel |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I wish he had the chance, ... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. If All You Are Feeling Is Angst, You Aren't a Liberal |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
49. Pretty darn close to my own mixed feelings. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
50. It is the responsibility of the citizenry to hold public servants to account. K&R |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. Evening kick |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
55. Using your list... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. I recommend this thread because it expresses well the angst that I feel. If it could only |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
62. A good description... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. Thanks, Will. :) nt |
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