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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:04 PM Original message |
Forty percent of Democrats say they ‘probably won’t vote’ in 2010 |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Geez! This will kill us |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. No, bad policy will kill us |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. We didn't intend to send Republicans to Congress, we aren't about |
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Frosty1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well they didn't ask me. |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. They didn't call me either. The Ba$tards! |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. +100 |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Maybe they should try giving Dems something to vote for other than "not as bad". |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They really aren't even giving us 'not as bad' anymore. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Too true. The proverbial dime has shrunk to less than a nickel. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. Holy shit you might be on to something! nt |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. No more lesser of two evils votes from me. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Agreed. It's time to think about a third party that represents traditional |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. me either. I will vote |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. Claiming you won't vote is one way to express disgust about the... |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. So, not voting and allowing people who DEFINITELY won't listen to you back into power is the way |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I said it's how they express disgust to pollsters - doesn't mean they won't vote. nt |
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katanalori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. THANK YOU, I AGREE |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. We already have people who definitely won't listen to us |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. clearly it's not-- but neither is electing people who don't listen regardless... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. Well if I had to guess, I'd say that the purpose is to make Dem leaders afraid |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
79. Don't try putting it upon us. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
82. the bunch in now definitely won't listen |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yes, but after the same results again and again, you have to... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. True. After 30+ years of Dem activism, I would become an Independent now... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. We're a mile wide and an inch thick. |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. They had better start running some real Dems against those Blue Dogs... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. +1 |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Quite true...Naomi Klein on C-Span today said some very interesting |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. True |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Do you suppose there's a very real, broad strategy to 'help out' Repubs in order to maintain..... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. If you know about DLC, you know the answer to your question. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. "Mission Accomplished!" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. I guess the GOP doesn't have a monopoly on teh stoopidz |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. or the conformist, sheepish kind. nt |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. This is why the republicans want to talk about Afganistan.... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. Isn't that actually more than usually vote in mid term elections? nt |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. I will vote but only because my congressman is John Shadegg. Mine is a vote against him not |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. In our system the only way to punish a party that is not serving the people is to |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. How would we know the difference (if Rs or Ds are in power)? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. We are considering a health care bill. Republicans would not consider that. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. I disagree. We were considering health INSURANCE reform, but |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. This plays right into Obama's hands. He can have his center-right presidency only if |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. That will happen when ELECTED Democrats act like Republicans. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Expect a manufactured way to 'coax' Americans' eye of that ball!!! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Exactly. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. +1 |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. It gets obvious when the progressives are relegated to the kiddie table after the election |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. Whether we vote or not, we still end up with Republicans. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. +1 |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obama sure knows how to energize the base with troop increase declarations and all... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
44. Lets do a quick review: |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Same policies, different (?) party. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. +100000 |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. The politics of disappointment |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
46. They only vote I am proud of is my vote for Grayson. |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Well, if you don't vote in 2010, Grayson will be OUT. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Or I can just vote for Grayson. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. this is exactly what the repigs want us to do. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
50. Very predictable (and yes it was predicted). |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
51. Forty percent of Democrats can go fuck themselves, then |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. That's what I said in 1994 |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. ...and still haven't, apparently. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. There is still a way to turn it around and WIN |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Yep. Older, whiter, more female, home-owning Dems will turn out to vote. nt |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Good luck with that. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I didn't say "vote for them." |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. You're yelling in the wrong direction |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. Personally, at some point, I join the ranks of those who don't give a shit. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. You think this is the fault of the Democrats who *complain* about Obama? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. my job is not always find fault when there's an issue that needs rectifying....... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. As opposed to just not giving a shit? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Yes, because Bush would never have escalated in Afghanistan. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
59. Which would mean Democratic turnout would be 20 percent HIGHER than usual |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
61. I think that these numbers are skewed a bit because more people |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
63. I understand their sentiments, but not voting is the LEAST constructive course of action |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
97. Great post! I urge you to make it an OP, more people need to read it. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Aw shucks! |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
64. Not voting in 2010 will allow GOP to gerrymander more seats in their favor for the next 10 years... |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
66. Sounds like there's more than one kind of push poll. n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. Kinda sheds light on why blue dogs don't bother to stick their necks out |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. So this is why they are cowards? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. It's probably a vicious cycle |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Probably. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
68. If you're a Democratic precinct chair/organizer, take a peek... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. Somehow I can't get excited about voting for Bart Stupak. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You're just not a loyal Democrat. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
75. Holy shit that's awful (but understandable). |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
76. Get ready for "WhiteWater II - The ACORN Years" |
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seeinfweggos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
95. i fear you are right, if the thugs take back the house, but that is unlikely |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #95 |
102. I beg to differ ... Obama does not have the "liberal media" on his side ... |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. The New Math: 81 = 3 X 56. And 168% of Repubs plan to vote. |
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Danascot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
81. Related thread |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
84. At this point, I'm staying home for the first time in more than 30 years. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'll probably vote dem but It doesn't matter since I live in the South East |
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bkozumplik (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. thats got to be a tremendous relief |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
88. It doesn't matter anymore. Both parties are fucked up. Fucking war pigs. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Agree - there is really no difference. It's all fucking smoke and mirrors nt |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
92. I don't think its an enthusiasm gap |
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Robbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
94. 2010 |
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seeinfweggos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. i am already sizing up candidates in the primaries |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
100. I will be voting in local elections, but the national dems can |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
101. Who would an actual Democrat vote for anyway? |
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