I just had to say this..

[butterfly77]

the other night I tuned in for a second to Huckabee. I know I shouldn't have done it. I saw chuck woolery of love connection talking about how he is a conservative and how he was running for the house or the senate but that is not my main point.

I was watching Huckabee and listening to his little monologue he gives every week trying to portray himself as the all knowlegable all mighty while judging our president. Now,I know a lot of you DUers don't believe in God but,I do so as I watched and my anger began growing,.

I began praying and asking the Lord to bring something out in the open about Huckabee which would show the world that he is not this so called perfect person he professes to be and what did I receive in a big bow this morning? Huckabee the all knowing,all perfect let out the guy who murdered the policemen. Now,lets see how he spins this...

[onlyadream]

1. I guess we should say THANK YOU! LOL!

[rucky]

2. Did you stay til the commerical?

Did Chuck Woolery say he'll be back in "two and two"?

[butterfly77]

8. I couldn't take it anymore..

I started thinking about all of the rest of the nuts like Pat boone,Andy williams,jon voight,and others and all I could,think of was here comes another one..

[AllentownJake]

3. This place is turning into a Leftwing FreeRepublic

Prayers to a wrathful God to do bad things to our political enemies.

4 people died.

[Fire1]

4. He is wrathful only in the OLD TESTAMENT! And I didn't see

ANYTHING ANYWHERE praying for "bad things to happen to political enemies." Yes, it is becoming freep republic but NOT for the reasons you indicate.

[AllentownJake]

5. Praying for people to see wisdom in choosing their leaders

Seems more appropriate from a Christian perspective.

[Kokonoe]

10. OH Ok,

Thanks for editing, Calling me free republic asking for death?? Lets just say your reputation stays intact.

[AllentownJake]

12. The entire Jesus thing

You know, you have to believe at one moment he is the all powerful son of God and at the same time he is the Prince of Peace who respects human free will to the point he allowed for his own torture and execution rather than releasing wrath and judgement on his accusers.

[Kokonoe]

26. Well I don't understand it myself.

But no matter what happened, he knew all along he is just coming back anyways.
We got pawned.

[Fire1]

39. Maybe YOU got pawned but don't speak for the rest of us. n/t

[Fire1]

37. I don't think it's "respecting" free will as much as free will being

one of the consequences stemming from the Garden of Eden. His crucification had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with respecting free will.

[AllentownJake]

40. I'm a quasi-believer

I have a problem with the idea of a Diety that drops a forbidden fruit in the middle of a Garden tells people not to eat it and leaves talking snakes around to tempt them than punishes them with death

I look at is, nomadic tribal, myths based on authoritarian principles.

[Fire1]

44. Evil is as old as Eden and also tried tempting Christ. He died

so we can overcome death (New Testament.)

[AllentownJake]

45. Depends

If you read Job Satan is an Angel sent to test the worthiness of the Human Race and cannot act with out God's permission.

[Fire1]

50. That certainly is not the interpretation I was taught. I'd like to

know the chapter and verse, to which you are referring.

[AllentownJake]

55. Satan can not act without God's permission

Read the first chapter.

[Fire1]

58. Satan didn't do anything to Job in the first chapter!!! What are

you talking about?????

[AllentownJake]

59. Satan asks for God's permission throughout the entire book

I really don't see the traditional interpretation of evil as being one that asks the almighty before it acts.

[Fire1]

60. But that is exactly what you said! Re-read your last two posts!

What Job said was truthfully stated BUT NOT a statement of truth! Job was WRONG in thinking that God caused all the bad things to happen to him (refer to John 10:10) NOR does Satan ask permission to do evil! Where on earth did you GET that crap!! No wonder pseudo christians are so screwed up! When destruction comes to any righteous man, it is done by satan, NOT God. Secondly, Gentiles (Christians) do not fall under the old covenant. The old covenant stayed in place until Christ died, then the NEW covenant began and begins with the Book of Acts.

The destruction that happened in the Old Testament was a JUDGMENT by God. In the new covenant the righteous are dealt with from a parental standpoint.

[butterfly77]

17. Is it bad that the all knowing,perfect Huckbee ..

has done something that is not perfect but he seems to want to judge the president and everyone and portrays himself as though he would be the perfect pres and would make all of the right decisions and he always throws up his governorship.

[AllentownJake]

28. I remember another Governor

What did Jesus pray about him?

[butterfly77]

29. We are talking about Huckabee,,,

[AllentownJake]

30. I'm talking about Christian scripture

and the entire example of Christ. If God himself did not pray for vengence on his enemies (actually quite the opposite) what do you think he expects from his followers.

[butterfly77]

31. I wasn't praying for vengenance,,,

I was praying for revelation...And all was revealed and my sympathies go to all of the families involved in this tragic incident...

[butterfly77]

35. He asks me to pray..

which I did..

[Kokonoe]

6. A bad thing happened our officers, not Huckabee

We still need to uncover what has happened.
God would be showing us what has been wrathed.
I advocate for the 4 people who would want the rest of us to know the truth.

[butterfly77]

15. Everyone who believes in God is not a nut...

and does not try to push their beliefs on others. Now,when it comes to abortion just because, I don't want one that doesn't mean that others can't because everyone does not have the same beliefs and the country doesn't worship in the same way.

[AllentownJake]

27. I distinctly remember

Christ praying for the death of Caiphas and Pilate before the crucifixtion. Oh wait, nope that isn't in there. That isn't in there at all.

[havocmom]

18. Well, we definitely have our own lunatic fringe

And they are getting more vocal. Don't think DU has completely turned yet. Still some sane voices and critical thinking here.

Thanks, AJ for being part of the latter ;)

[FLyellowdog]

7. I just don't get it...

If god is all-knowing, all-seeing, etc.,etc. etc., why is it necessary to pray to ask for anything? Wouldn't god already know what the right thing to do is and then do it? I just don't get it. :shrug:

[AllentownJake]

9. He's all knowing and all powerful

but he is shitty with money as George Carlin used to say.

[butterfly77]

11. God works in mysterous ways..

:hi:

[FLyellowdog]

14. She must. nt

[dgibby]

41. Just wondering.

Why do you suppose God has not seen fit to EVER answer in the affirmative the prayers of the millions of amputees in the world? Surely at least one of them is worthy of a healing miracle, ie, the spontaneous restoration of the amputated limb. Otherwise, they'd have to be in a special class all by themselves in God's eyes, wouldn't they?

[butterfly77]

42. He is not ready...

God works on his own timeline..We can come up with all types of situations to ask WHY?

[dgibby]

43. Thanks for simplifying .

Now I remember why I left the church.:banghead: :yoiks:

[Kokonoe]

16. Yes but sometimes when we follow the wrong ideal of god 'ie republicanism

We cannot figure out why money(god) still doesn't rain money on us.

[Renew Deal]

13. So you're saying God sent someone to kill 4 cops to answer your prayers?

That's a bit of a stretch.

[butterfly77]

19. No. you are...

[treestar]

21. No, that God put Muckabee in the position of person who gave

clemency to the alleged shooter.

It could have been any governor or a Dem governor.

Why are there so many illogical people here? Why jump to such conclusions?

[butterfly77]

24. But,it was Huckabee...

the all knowing and all perfect Republicon..

[Codeine]

62. Illogical?

We're talking about magical death fairies nailed to crosses and living in the sky for all eternity -- the whole friggin' conversational platform is erected on a bed of irrational goofballery.

[havocmom]

22. Stretch, yes, but it might set the stage for serious consideration for rigorous

prayer control.

edited for typo

[BREMPRO]

20. i watched the same show and was nauseated by his smug folksy pretensions of moral wisdom

as he solemnly criticized the Dems and Obama and stated we needed to take our country BACK, as if the EIGHT year Bush disaster through Republican "leadership" and conservative policies that drove our country and the world of moral and fiscal bankruptcy NEVER happened and things would be glorious if Conservatives could regain control again. What a psychotic cynical display of political amnesia. I usually don't yell at the TV, but i did yesterday. He's a slimeball.

[butterfly77]

23. Exactly !

[ecstatic]

25. Isn't this the second or third time one of the people he set free

has gone on to murder again? On one hand I admire his willingness to give convicts a second chance, but still...he has shown over the top poor judgment.

[Orsino]

32. His party's agenda is there for all to see...

...for any not willfully blind, that is. That should show any adherent to be far less than perfect.

[butterfly77]

33. His audience doesn't think so..

they think that because he is a preacher or whatever he is,he can say or do no wrong...

[Orsino]

34. And more importantly, the MSM refuse to call him on it.

Therefore, he's legitimate.

[butterfly77]

36. I haven't been near the television today..

Have they been talking about Huckabee? I will be surprised if fox does and if they do the spin will somehow put the blame on Obama.

[MilesColtrane]

38. Since Huckabee let him out before you prayed...

was your prayer really answered?

Or did God, being omnipotent and beyond time, know you were going to pray last night for this, and did He therefore make Huckabee grant the shooter clemency back then?

And, doesn't it seem a little weird that He would use the deaths of four people with families to derail a political race?

How does this work?

[butterfly77]

46. So I take it you don't believe in..

Our Lord &Savior:rofl:

[RetroLounge]

47. unrec'ing the mythological bullshit...

please join the reality based community.

:eyes:

RL

[butterfly77]

48. Thank you for your thought ...

for the day...:hi: have a blessed,wonderful,beautiful,glorious,and blessed day..

[RetroLounge]

49. But will you pray for me now?

:shrug:

RL

[butterfly77]

51. Anytime..

Glad to do it..

[lame54]

52. You prayed for 4 cops to be murdered?

[butterfly77]

54. No but, it seems as though..

you wanted me to..What's the problem you don't like it when people say they worship the Lord? Every Dem is not a nut if they believe this.

[lame54]

56. I read what you wrote and that's how it comes out...

Maybe you should skip church and take an English comp class

[Codeine]

61. But you are a nut if you

pray to your Invisible Sky Daddy asking him/her/it to do bad things to people you disagree with politically. That's full-on whackadoodle territory.

[mstinamotorcity]

53. Well i don't

think that butterfly77 prayed for the deaths of police officers so that a politician could look foolish. She prayed that his foolishness would be seen by the world. As for everyone who choses to believe or not to believe, that is a personal choice. But whatever happened i am glad that people see things from all sides. My heart goes out to every law enforcement family that has ever lost a love one. But Mr. Huckabee can go suck a frogs ass. the rhetoric he spits out his mouth can only come from the pits of hell so as far as i am concerned whatever heat he gets from this is only where his heart and integritiy are. And one thing is for sure 2012 won't be a good year for his stank ass. Talk about they want their country back well maybe now some of you see what the hell would happen if his ass was to rule the country. Maybe i should start preaching on republicon f--kups.}( }( }( }(

[librechik]

57. it only worked cuz you were praying for a GOOD thing

If you had prayed, say for Huckabee to DIE because he has caused so many innocent deaths with his lack of judgement,

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/a-clockwork-orange/rev-wiley-drake-prays-for-obam/

God would smite you with the wet end of Flying Spaghetti Monster.