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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:41 AM Original message |
"He promised, during the campaign, to increase troops in Afghanistan. Blah, blah, fucking blah ...." |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!!!1!! |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Wipe. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. "Most everyone on the left knows it," -- a symptom of megalomania |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It would be useful if the so-called left could get its house in order |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. You're deflecting from the original argument |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I've been a leftist (not a Democrat, not a liberal, not a 'progressive' whatever the eff that means) |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. I don't disagree with you |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I'm undecided |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Well said! nt |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. My unscientific, unreliable "Poll Of Personal Anecdotes" tells me NO ONE favors this |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. And those fighting these wars aren't fooled |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Your statement surprizes me ...... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Ah, you think the escalation has broad support? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. You forgot the one about the magic wand. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. And ponies, he forgot ponies.. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Just snark .... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. When you and the most powerful person on Earth agree, you are in a comfortable position. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. So ..... bullying is okay? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I was picking up on that idea you had going on, that people who support the escalation |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Okay, got it. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. You so nailed that one. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Wrong! and I don't recall the President... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. We'll do it again tomorrow. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. He has all but ended the Iraq War. I'm thrilled! "US undertaking largest withdrawal of troops" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. They need to come home. n/t |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. And that justifies expansion in Afghanistan ......... how, exactly? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "a candidate who RAN HIS CAMPAIGN as Anti Iraq War; " |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It isn't over. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Obama said he never wanted to send troops in without justification... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
39. Ended? Do you know how many troops are still there? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. 20,000 were sent there just to pack stuff up according to the NY Times |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. There is a great expanse between ending and ended. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Where are combat operations occurring in Iraq -- please post a link nt |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Combat operations aren't set to end until August of 2010. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. "In the real world" ....... that's pretty much how it always happens. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The military disagrees with you |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Please tell me what we brought back from Viet Nam? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. The military disagrees because they sent 20,000 supply, quartermaster and logistics troops to pack |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Oh boy .... where to start ...... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Very large letters -- how eloquent |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. You're still avoiding questions |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. You realize you're using a really dumb rhetorical strategy |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Why the reluctance to state that at the outset when asked? |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. There will still be a large contingent of US forces in Iraq for years or decades to come. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. This is nothing more than the Status of Forces Agreement accepted by Bush. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. let me say this about that |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Off topic |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. I always imagined they would put on a barn-burner of a show. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Have you ever been to the Ryman? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. That sounds cool. The best venue I ever frequented was The Ark in Ann Arbor. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. "We took our eye off the ball by going into Iraq" |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So .... you, personally, support the escalation in Afghanistan? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I'm split to be honest.. |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. If I thought this occupation/war was about that, |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. "Propaganda is to democracy what the bludgeon is to the totalitarian state." - Chomsky |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. The women of Afghanistan want us OUT |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
20. Everyone on the left opposed the surge in Iraq. I know |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. yeah. too bad he's not walking the talk on much else (n/t) |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Like what? n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. What "worked" in Iraq was ethnic cleansing and paying the combatants to not cobmbat each other.. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. From what I understand the bribes were part of the surge |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. How Many?..... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. What about Afghanistan? n/t |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. There are many foreign policy experts on DU... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I most always like what you have to say, Kentuck, but on this one ...... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I don't support the escalation.. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
23. Ha ha, fooled you! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. You got what you voted for. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Guys like me? |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. Hell, he also ran on no insurance mandates. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
57. He sure did. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. Did he also campaign on the platform that the Patriot Act was just great? Fuck, no!!!! |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. And he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
38. For those who saw his Afghanistan stance as a LIE |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. Back in 2002 - while still a lowly state senator |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. He even explained that change |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Yet we can "start from scratch" |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. Would the born-again hawks here back McCain if he had won and made the same decision? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. Moot question, he'd most probably have us embroiled in a war with Iran by now |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. "born again hawks"-- perfect. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
66. This should be a fun few days of |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. There was no choice, now was there. |
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