"We must increase troop levels in Afganistan in order to withdraw!": What the sales pitch will be

[grahamhgreen]

My guess is that we will see a marketing/sales campaign based on this concept starting Tuesday, and over the next few weeks/months.

Obama will be the chief salesman/pitchman.

How could they sell an escalation of the war to the majority of people who want us out? By telling them it IS getting us out!

Kind of based on the 'war is peace' model, only they will package it as this (necessary) 'war will lead to peace'.

IMHO.

Be interesting to see if this unfolds.

In the end it is important to remember that PEACE ALWAYS WINS IN THE END.

[FarLeftFist]

1. The day after his speech on Tuesday....

9000 Marines will deploy to Afghanistan. The rest will follow in coming months.

[peacebird]

2. unwinnable war. Only question is how much $$$ and blood we will spend before we withdraw

and declare victory...

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Yes it's unwinnable. I'm sure even Obama (hell, ESPECIALLY Obama) knows that.

We're no doubt there for other reasons involving oil/gas, pipelines, Pakistan and China.

[TheWraith]

15. THERE IS NO OIL IN AFGHANISTAN. Please stop repeating this nonsense.

There isn't any substantial amount of gas either.

[Jackpine Radical]

16. I know that; however, there is both oil & gas in certain other regions

that could be best accessed by pipelines across Afghanistan to India & through Pakistan to the sea.

Here is a map.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/oil_war.htm

[notesdev]

18. But there are pipeline routes

which is one theory as to the real reason behind the length of this little military adventure.

Another concerns Afghanistan being the #1 heroin producer in the world.

Which is correct? I doubt we'll know the truth in my lifetime, if ever.

What I do know is that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[Oregone]

5. Until it becomes unprofitable or there is no more money to siphon to the upper class MIC investors

[Jackpine Radical]

3. We had to destroy Afghanistan in order to save it. (nt)

[alterfurz]

17. beat me to it!

McChyrstalnamara sees light at the end of the tunnel by 2013!

[Major Hogwash]

6. Onward Christian soldiers

Just in time for the holiday season.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. It's very telling that his speech is being made at West Point.

Kinda like giving a speech endorsing DOMA at the Vatican.

[FrenchieCat]

8. Yeah. He should be giving it in front of an Anti-any War crowd.....

cause they are the ones going to Afghanistan. :sarcasm:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. I doubt that an anti-war crowd would cheer to his satisfaction.

But, he could give one to crowds of cheering supporters at Boeing, Raytheon, GE, and other stops on the MIC circuit that includes West Point.

[951-Riverside]

10. Hiding behind the troops just like Bush did eh?

I really wanted him to do it from oval office. Just seems inappropriate to make the announcement in front of a crowd.

[treestar]

11. that could be

That is perfectly possible.

If only life were as simple as you propose.

[grahamhgreen]

14. To me, it is this simple. War = Money, when you sell bullets. OR, "Money trumps peace"- GW Bush. nt

[Sinti]

12. Technically, you do have to "call in the movers"

if he decides to simply withdraw and pursue regional diplomatic solutions. It takes a few more troops to haul away all our stuff - not tens of thousands, but it would be a kind of increase.

[grahamhgreen]

19. Excellent! We are not escalating, we just called in the movers to get us out!

Maybe they'll hit this point as well...?

[SoCalDem]

13. like "we had to burn the village to save it"..n/t

[grahamhgreen]

20. Looks like I was right. They simply take whatever point they want - however nonsensical

and attach it as the reason they they are doing something, be it war escalation, giving billions to banksters, or fining people who can not afford health insurance and calling it reform.