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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:39 AM
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It all comes down to we need election finance reform
Who here, or anywhere for that matter, can honestly say that most of our congressmen and women are not bought and paid for through the financing of their elections and re-elections
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:44 AM
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1. We would need to bribe Congress to pass that legislation.
But, if we came up with enough cash, it would change everything, until the Supreme Court found that unconstitutional. No doubt.

Money rules.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:14 AM
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5. We would need to bribe the Supreme's as well.
They say giving money is free speech.

So, as you stated, money is power.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 01:01 PM
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10. Touche. That does follow, doesn't it?
;-)
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:55 AM
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2. You are absolutely correct....but the other poster has a point!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:56 AM
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3. Yup so are you correct
I'm ready to go to the streets for this one cause
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:17 AM
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6. This would qualify as a reason
to take part of Peace of the Action. In DC this spring.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:33 AM
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9. This IS an issue that is fully deserving of "going to the streets".
No reform in this area really means no reform ANYWHERE....As long as "public opinion" actually means "corporate money", real reform is impossible.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:02 AM
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4. We desperately need finance reform but neither our congress nor the administration will do it as
they are the benefactors. We have a system that basically functions on bribery. It's no wonder this country is so WTF all of the time and corporations, lobbyists, greed and money rule the country. It's that way by default. A F'en mess for "We the People," who really don't count anymore in the NEW USA. Only money routed to the right places counts and rules. So sad.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:20 AM
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7. So simple to understand, so obvious, so fiercely disavowed and/or denied
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:43 AM
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8. Major problem
It is indeed the main thing that runs our government, the major donors buy congress, the president, senators and reps are bought and paid for in the chase to be re-elected, and they are the only ones who can do anything about it.

We Have the fox guarding the hen house....
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:06 AM
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11. It's about to get a whole lot worse if the Citizens United v. FEC ruling is sweeping.
Imagine how screwed we'll all be when Big Ag, Big Oil & Coal, Big Pharma, et al are given the absolute freedom to use their awesome stash of billion of dollars to directly buy unlimited media time for or against candidates. The most progressive candidates will be the first to go.

With all "teh stoopid" conservatives, we'll have a representative gov of wholly owned corporate whores in no time.

Election reform so incredibly critical at this point.
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