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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:17 AM Original message |
The Ever Increasing Police State. How Far To The Nazi Twilight Zone? |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. 'Hitler's Brain Is Still Alive' |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. _ |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Some people love nanny states (The UK starts a trend, the US will follow) |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Funny, the UK has an incarceration rate only a fraction of that in the US.. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. UK is second, Nigeria is down further on the list. Not sure the point... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Like I said, the incarceration rate in the UK is a fraction that in the US.. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. So you think china is a more free country than the us? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Apparently in some ways China is more free.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. you make a mistake too |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And someone who lives in the country with the highest incarceration rate in the world |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. let me put it this way |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. If we have so many rights here in the "land of the free" then why so many locked up? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. i'm sorry you do not compute |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Explain why the incarceration rate in the UK is so low then. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. except thats not a logical inference |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. As I said, I've spent time there .. I don't feel any less free than I do here.. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Ahhhh. Anecdotal evidence. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. The "evidence" is clear.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. how you FEEL is irrelevant |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The "facts" are that far more people are punished far more severely in the US than in the UK |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. and the facts are |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. There shouldn't *be* "nonviolent drug offenders" in the first place.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. we are generally in accord there |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Do people research shit before forming opinions any more? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. So what? |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. OMFG are you dense? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. also note that |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. It's more than one number.. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Given that they are crimes in both countries... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. very true |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. not really |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I have family in the UK, a considerable number actually.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. and |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. In what way is my argument about surveillance patently false? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. which part |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I've spent considerable time in the UK, have you? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. that's very true |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. It's the Daily Mail, which is right wing shit, er, sheet. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I was just thinking... 'Well, if I wanted to know a number of early factors |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. You don't understand. Voluntary surveys are just the first step. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. if US govt agents went door to door |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. Daily Hate Mail RW hysteria. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. and?... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. Nothing to worry about. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Heh |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. And that's the exact perspective that Americans seek to avoid like the plague |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. rubbish on several fronts |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. So, how many "no knock" raids in the UK versus the US? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. i have no idea |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. My point was that the United States now resembles NAZI Germany. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. conservos should be so proud |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. and yet, many peopl here support kneejerk overreaching legislation |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. Aren't the objections to anti-bullying laws... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. of course |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Could you be a little more specific? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. i was |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. At first I thought it was about this program |
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