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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:36 PM Original message |
this broke my heart re flu shot |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. What evidence is there that a flu shot caused this? |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. doctor friend had study translated from Germany |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. In the absence of proof, you have nothing, in other words |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. pray tell |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
32. No, but I know how the system works |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. res ipsa loquitur |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. totally agree |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Sorry for your husbands situation. |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. like I said Fire Medic |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I'll be happy to look at the German study, just post a link. |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. oncologist paid for a translator |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. So a study about Parkinson's proves the flu shot caused a reaction? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Number of adverse H1N1 vaccine reactions reported in Canada: |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. First, do no harm. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Link please? |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Here you go: |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Thanks, I'm curious about the doses given but it should be further investigated. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. In mice. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. I love the risk evaluation failures around here about these things |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. Here's more about the case: |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. The cheerleader again. Are we back to this? |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Another one, for your edification |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. So Ms. Jennings was given a vaccine with aluminum hydroxide used as an adjuvant? |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. fire medic |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. What qualifications does one need to ask questions? |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I don't know Ms. Jennings. Why should I have an opinion about her case? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. You responded to a post about her. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I responded to a post about the vaccine. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Your post #18 is a direct reponse to post #15 which is about Ms. Jennings. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I think you need to look at post #18 again, friend. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And if it had been posted in response to post #9 then I wouldn't have thought it was about Jennings. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Is it really too much to understand that it's about the possible effects of the vaccine on Jennings? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. So now it is about Ms. Jennings? What evidence do you have she was given a vaccine with adjuvant? |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. NO, it's not about her. It's about the fucking vaccine! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Sorry but you are wrong about the use of adjuvants. Link included. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I HOPE I stand corrected. But what about this? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yes the multi-dose vials do contain Thimerosal, the single dose flu mist do not. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. So, then most of them DO contain these metals? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thimerosal isn't an adjuvant. There are plenty of thimerosal free seasonal and H1N1 vaccines. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. This is a shell game. They still have METALS in them. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. No they don't, thimerosal and adjuvant free vaccines are available as I said in my last post. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. They are not the injectable though, are they? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Both types of both seasonal and H1N1 vaccine are available without adjuvants or thimerosal. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. For one thing, like you said, it's not as widely available |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I can't address irrational fears. Vaccines without thimerosal or adjuvants are available bottom line |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. They'll be citing that cheerleader fifty years from now, too |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
30. I don't understand what a flu shot has to do with Parkinson's and lipitor |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
44. It's OK, she's been cured... |
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