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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 07:56 PM Original message |
Why I believe we need to actively engage the discussion of party direction that is occurring |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Some ideas are not reconcilable. No amount of "dialogue" can make DLCers right |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I am not arguing that you should not express that, but that we need to be open to discussion |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You don't want open discussion, you want nothing but opposition |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Have your opinion Prosense, but please don't attempt to hijack the thread. You are one voice |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Hijack the thread? |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Come on, this crap is part of the problem. Cut it out please. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I rest my case. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. What crap? You seem to only want to have a discussion with people who agree with you. n/t |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Support? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. "If true Healthcare Reform is not passed, this will be the END of Obama career." |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. That's all so true, and why his policy ratings and the Dems ratings are going down. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Unfortunately, "fracture" has already happened, and will continue. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. What is wrong with fracturing? nt |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Because we all lose. We are a two party system. If Dems lost half their numbers Rep win |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. What's the point of electing democrats if they just act like republicans once they are in office? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The term 'DLC'er conceals more than it explains. What about those who are centrist |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. The DLC is about corporatism |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. On the current political spectrum... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. "I would also argue, that shouting over or trying silence those who are dissatisfied |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I am not surprise you feel that way Prosense |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Feel what way? |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. And where did the OP say that everyone who disagrees is helping? |
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Roosesvelte (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. Good Post |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I foresee a future 4 Party System in the US |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I would welcome that. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. The danger is we don't have a parlamentory system, so if we fracture power goes to the Republicans |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. There are some who are now saying that is almost inevitable, and maybe HAS to happen. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. I completely agree with you except for one thing..... |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. You need at least 8 parties |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. The problem is not the problem... its that so many people don't know how to "DISCUSS" |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I can't disagree, that is a big problem. But why do they combat nastily? They don't want to hear all |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Because if they overcome us with nastiness, they win. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Maybe you are right |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Again, that is the standard RW tactic. Overwhelm others with nastiness until |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. Given that the Dems are not doing well nationally (which many of us predicted!) |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Exactly, the Party needs to recognize the issue or we all lose. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Initially is the key. So many have been run off that the whole site is weakened, |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Can we start a Progressive Underground? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. We're not allowed to talk about that here. |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. we are not allowed to talk about that here |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
37. I get the sense that both parties are struggling |
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