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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 10:55 AM Original message |
Jesus FUCK how did 1 pass in Maine???? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. People's rights should never be subject to an election. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Oh I agree...We'd still be keeping slaves if it were up to a referendum |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. Actually, |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. It Is Not the Fault of the Campaign Leaders That People Vote for Hate. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If you can't market/frame/package your message effectively, it most certainly is the campaign. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The Problem Is The Bigots Who Voted to Remove Civil Rights From People. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. a victim who remains passive or refuses to engage in both EFFECTIVE offensive and defensive strategy |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Please Don't Lecture Me on Activism |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I'm not "blaming those gay people" either. The topic was the CAMPAIGN. And if you ran a good |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. well how would you go about it? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Did tv ads run in Maine showing gay couples in a sympathetic light explaining their position? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. How Dare You Lecture Us When You Don't Know What We Did? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Again, the topic of the thread is the CAMPAIGN & LEADERSHIP. My comments about DU are valid- |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. Putting legal issues to the popular vote is both incredibly wrong and brings idiots out in droves. |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. That's right. The courts made a decision - they are there to balance the rights of the minority |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's not the people who run the campaign--it's the ignorance of voters in blue and red states |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yes and no |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. NOW will they finally strip the Church of its tax-exempt status??? n/t |
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jpljr77 (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. What message is being used on the pro side? |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Once in a Catholic group meeting... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Reason No. 84,762 why domestic partnerships, civil unions, etc. are not sufficient |
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jpljr77 (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I agree. And I'm not for partnerships, unions, etc. It should be marriage. |
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jpljr77 (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. It's a powerful argument. I would really just love to know how often it's presented... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. It wasn't the Vote For NO peoples' fault, it was the huge money coming in from the religious people |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. are you saying there weren't a lot of Pro-gay CA residents with tons of money to donate |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. So where was the money? Why is it so hard to outspend the other guys? :^( |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I think we are saying the "gay Agenda" is a myth |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. We DID have a lot of money. And a lot was spent. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Do you think we could put it back to vote again during a major election year? Would we |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. this thread is fucking SICKENING. stop blaming the VICTIMS nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. The organizers are not the victims |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. Can the Maine Supreme Court rule on this? |
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