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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:23 PM
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Our health insurance just raised the deductible by $1,000/yr
just got a note in the mail, they raised the deductible by $250 per person. In our family of 4, that means we essentially had our health care costs raised by $1,000 per year.

more gold plated silverware for the health insurance company.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:26 PM
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1. My brother has health insurance thru his work - $5,000 deductible
and he pays about $700 a month for two of them.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:29 PM
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3. $13,400 out of pocket. For a couple. Outrageous. eom
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:32 PM
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7. And I think that is his only benefit.
I don't think he gets paid for any days off or sick leave. Its a small company in Spokane.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:29 PM
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4. so, "affordable" = 700 x 12 =8400 plus 5000 = $13400! Outrageous.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:08 PM
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11. why do we need to fix it again!??! the only upside I can see is that maybe enough people will
be missing that great insurance they had assumed would be there to friggin do something about it.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:31 PM
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12. Outrageous?
I pay over $18K/yr in premiums for a $5K deductible and 50% of the next $10K. That is $28K/yr out of pocket potentially! This policy is for me and my wife. She had cancer 7 yrs ago but has not been to a doctor in 5 yrs, yet the rates keep going up every year. I am hoping for some relief in the HCR bill, but I don't see any yet.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:36 PM
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18. I would think you guys would get some relief
Unless your income is too high to qualify for subsidies or a cap. You can calculate your premium under the different plans here: http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

It's for individuals or a family of 4 but I imagine you would just calculate you and your wife at individual rates.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:22 PM
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20. that's outrageous too! of course you'd be looking for affordable
and comprehensive health care coverage.

Some nurse practitioners are very affordable.....
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:55 PM
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9. yeah, it's all a scam. they make it seem like the employer is paying for it
but we all know who is footing the bill
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:34 PM
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13. I pay over $500 for me. Husband is on Medicare (I'll be 60 this week). And I'm part of a group!
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 02:35 PM by WinkyDink
Public school retiree option through my district.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:28 PM
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2. This is happening to a lot of people, it seems.
Looks like they might be preemptively raising rates now so that when the reform is passed they've gotten people used to paying a higher amount they'll start giving "discounts" that are still higher than what you were paying in the past. Reminds me of when stores jack up the original price on an item and then put it on sale, except it's really not on sale.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:31 PM
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6. I have my own insurance - $400 a month for just me and $1500
deductible.

I pay so much for insurance each month - all different kinds - that I can't afford to see a doctor. I just have to make it until I'm 65 one way or another. If I get sick before that I am dead.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:32 PM
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17. That is the common situation for people 50 to 64
Insurance is expensive as hell for that age group and you don't qualify for Medicare yet.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:46 PM
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8. This is the open enrollment time of year when most people elect benefits for 2010
That doesn't mean some insurance companies aren't raising rates more than they would have to take advantage. But the timing couldn't be better because it will help drive home to many people the importance of insurance reform. Maybe if some of those who get jacked up rates will contact their congress critters, we'll get a better bill passed. Here's hopin' anyway.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:30 PM
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5. My deductible (single coverage) is going from $500 to $1,200
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 01:30 PM by dflprincess
with a max out of pocket of $3,700 for next year (not counting the stuff that isn't covered, like vision and dental). It's a "consumer driven" (translation = more money for the corporate officers) health plan that will still require my doctor or I get permission from some low level clerk before anything other than preventative tests get done.

I'm hoping to stay well enough I don't even have to think about using it.




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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:25 PM
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21. absurd! I think insurance corps have a dartboard and throw darts
at it to make up numbers/amounts to charge.

Obama, we need relief from this stupidity!
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:07 PM
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10. and they want to mandate this shit. our insurance too has been gutted
with high deductible before they even pay a dime. for two of us it will be about $400/mo for the privilege of being sure not to even come close to the deductible. Now there is no way i am going to be able to keep going to counseling.... oh well... as long as the insurance company big wigs can sleep on expensive sheets at night.... then it's all worth it. and as long as my congress representatives can have what I am apparently not supposed to have. My sister works for the IRS... bitches about her insurance. but the government pays 75%... she pays $200 every two weeks for a family of four. We are paying that for just bob and I. and we have a crapload of deductibles and stuff.... and we won't even have it this good after the end of the year because what we have (which was the worst plan available) won't even be available along with any marginally decent plan. Thank god we had abby this year!! And thank god that our kids can get on child health plus where at least THEY are covered!! As a person struggling enough already it's enough to make you just want to give up altogether. How many more ways can they squeeze us til there is nothing left!! I mean... no pay raises.... and let's make insurance even worse. Do you know how much those immunizations cost!! With no insurance??? $35 to $55 a pop. I wonder how much of that would be covered by my insurance were it even available.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:41 PM
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14. Well how dare you to think health insurance should pay for health care.
What is wrong with you?

Don't you know that Insurance Companies have payroll to meet, and your health care bills would get in the way of that?
This doesn't even touch the CEO bonus... You'll get another letter about that.

Jeez, who ever gave you the idea that health insurance should pay for your health care bills?

:sarcasm:
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cpompilo Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:47 PM
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15. That is so outrageous.
I cannot afford health insurance.
My husband had to go to the er a few months ago because of a car accident. The bill from the er -
$26,000.00 How the hell are we gonna pay that? A little at a time I guess.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:56 PM
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16. and they want to mandate this outrage, this racket.

When are we going to join the rest of the civilized world and provide universal health care to all our citizens?

The reforms currently in Congress are not only grossly inadequate, they are actually detrimental and a step backwards.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:37 PM
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19. Got to remimburse the coffers
You know they spent $1.4 million per day buying Congress. Time to put the money back in their pockets.
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