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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:29 AM Original message |
50 golden guineas to anyone who can tell me how costs will be brought down in HCR |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Reduce/eliminate middleman profits. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. Remove the insurance co. Their overhead costs are a killer. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. To be clear - I'm talking about the bills before us right now. nt |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Oh, in that case - it won't. Nothing will change except greater insurance corps profits |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. ... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. The theory is that when more people are forced to buy insurance |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. As classical econ says: Forced, inflexible demand always causes prices to fall. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's a major problem with Pelosi's bill, huh? And while we're asking good questions, let's |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. Show me the money, first |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't think this is a stupid question and I think we all need to know the answers |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. 50 golden guineas is some serious coin |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
10. Section 102 |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. That is an excellent answer to my question! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I like chocolate. n/t |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. The problem with doing it like this is that they WILL cook the books. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. No penalties specified if they don't, however. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. No penalty except for reimbursing their subscribers the difference. n/t |
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Blue State Blues (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. One theory is that if individuals pay more "cost sharing" |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. +5 |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. we will be paying on a sliding scale, in order to remain "deficit neutral." |
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cpamomfromtexas (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hubby got 3 stitches and was billed for "outpatient surgery" by Baylor Healthcare |
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cpamomfromtexas (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I'm thinking we can reduce this crap by having gov't auditors checking on the charges. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sec. 104 Sunshine on price gouging by health insurance issuers. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. What horseshit. A list of the naughty, naughty boys and girls? |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. Don't you understand it's a FOOT IN THE DOOR? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Like I want the private insurer fucktards to have their feet in my door n/t |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sec. 262. Restoring application of anti-trust laws to health insurers. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. Sec. 1171. Limitation on cost-sharing for individual health services. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. Sec. 1185. No mid-year formulary changes permitted. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Wonderful! They only get to fuck us over once a year now! n/t |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sec. 1202. Elimination of Part D cost-sharing for certain non-institutionalized ... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Have I told you lately how much you rock, Berni? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Heh, thanks Jeff. I *could* keep going with this, but I think the OP gets the message |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Yes. The message is that telling insurance companies that |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. There are no cost controls, other than the Medicare reform |
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