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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:42 AM
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Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann are dangerous
Most Americans know that Newt Gingrich, John Boehner, and many of the other mental cases in the Republican Party, are unfit for the presidency. I believe that many Republicans have as much chance of becoming president as Charles Manson.

But Palin and Bachmann seem to have a pretty wide Republican audience that is paying attention to them and idolizing them. At present, few people believe that either one of them could ever get elected. I have two answers to that -- Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Who in the world would have believed that these two ignorant men could ever get into the Oval office? But they did – two times each.

So could Palin or Bachmann ever reach a position of absolute power? I don’t know. But, for the most part, I have almost zero confidence in the intelligence of the American people. So I really have to be convinced that this nightmare scenario could never happen.

And spare me the accusations of being anti-feminist. I would have had no problem with Hillary sitting in the Oval Office. And I’ve enjoyed watching Nancy Pelosi kicking ass.

Anyhow, that’s my opinion about Palin and Bachmann. What’s yours?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:44 AM
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1. Oh like DU'ers are going to accuse you about anti-feminism about these two douchebags...
You're nut's if you think these two are dangerous.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:47 AM
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2. And your home planet is ... ?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:47 AM
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3. Do you listen to RW talk radio? The callers think Palin is the messiah of 2012
And the talk show hosts don't argue with them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:08 AM
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:49 AM
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4. they are dangerous
but presidential? nah. bachmann is too weird, and palin, imo, doesn't want it. she just wants money.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:51 AM
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5. I don't think there's any cause for concern.



Just because a lot of people, MSM included, talk about them a lot doesn't mean they have a chance in hell in the national arena. I'd like to think the electorate is better informed in the larger scale. Boner probably knows better to remain a big frog in a small pond and Sleazy Newt knows better than to waste his time and money on a serious campaign.


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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:51 AM
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6. They've gotten as far as they will ever go in their political careers.
An Alaskan blogger and a known loon.

They will stir up the opposition and will make money off of them.

That's about it.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:49 AM
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14. I do not disagree
I also believe time will show they have both jumped the shark; the media will not be kind in the ensuing months.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:52 AM
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7. they might be
. . . if we weren't facing such daunting challenges affecting so many American lives. American voters only give attention to demagogues and their nonsense in good times when there's nothing else to bitch about.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:04 AM
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:12 AM
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10. When I hear DUers state that they hope Palin is the 2012 candidate,
I always think, "Be careful what you wish for." The rabid right, who adore Palin, are going to be out in force next election - more so than in the past. They're pissed that they lost, many are racists, & they aren't all that bright. They don't recognize or acknowledge that a lot of their economic woes are due to their own party's policies. I would never underestimate Palin's base.

The real question is, will the republican PTB let her have the candidacy? She's a puppet, just like Reagan & 43, & they like that. Their party has been happy to court the wackos in the past, but will they chance that she turns off moderate republicans? I think her run for the presidency is initially in the hands of the republican party.

My biggest worry is that the dems won't do enough to help Main St. & by 2012, many dems will stay home or vote 3rd party.

I don't think Bachmann has the same kind of appeal as Palin.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:54 AM
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15. Eh I think that Palin is smart enough to realize that..
her gravy train come to a screeching halt if she runs for president.

There's a lot more money and longevity in being a commentator.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:15 AM
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11. Clear and present danger
in fact, those two and ALL republicans should be treated as such.

Hopefully soon we will wake up to the fact that it's them or us, and start acting accordingly.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:39 AM
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13. I couldn't agree more
Almost every empire in the history of the world has been destroyed from within. Today, the greatest danger to America is the Republican Party.

They've gotten away with the vast amount of national and international crimes they committed over the past eight years. They are among the most dangerous domestic enemies we've had since the insanity of the McCarthy era. Imagine what they would do the next time they came to power.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:21 AM
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12. A Cave called Bachmann and Palin, and it wants its batshit back. n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:55 AM
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16. if Palin is elected our kids will be saying the Pledge of Allegiance in Tongues in a week. she has
associated with Dominionists for quite a while... the whole "Wealth is evidence of gods favor of a man", therefore taxing a rich man or regulating who he hurts to get rich is a sin. plus the poor are getting what god wants them to suffer.. so helping them is a sin too..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/sarah-palins-churches-and_b_124611.html?page=7

BE AFRAID.. BE VERY AFRAID...
Palin's plan of god part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpO1Ru8AwRs&feature=related
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z40QZptPO7M&feature=related

Prophicy...is just these scary rat bastards using god as their Sock Puppet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VtF7Ypr1hY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z40QZptPO7M&feature=PlayList&p=44BBCB89A240C5F3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Sarah+Palin%27s+Churches+and+The+Third+Wave%3A+New+Video+Documentary&search_type=&aq=f
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 12:10 PM
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17. I think to a certain extent that George W. Bush tricked the American people
I'm not talking about politically aware DUers, but the average American.

They knew he was stupid and illiterate going in, given some of his speeches as Texas Governor. It's true that if someone had dug deeply enough, they would have found the stories about his anti-environmental record in Texas, his insider trading, his cronyism with powerful corporate interests such as his cozy relationship to the Koch family, and his virtual theft of land to make himself a millionaire as head of the Texas Rangers. They might have found stories about his frat boy hijinks and his cushy situation with the TANG during the Vietnam war.

But the media was complicit in not reporting on these stories. You had to go to special websites to read them, like Bush Watch. Instead, the American people were told about what a compassionate conservative George W. Bush was and what a wonderful Christian man he was. They were told about how he cooperated in reaching across the aisle in Texas as Governor. He himself stated that he didn't believe in nation building during the 2000 campaign and how he was a uniter and not a divider. I don't think the American people quite anticipated just how evil, corrupt, and incompetent the Bush Administration would come to be.

Bachmann and Palin on the other hand are up front about what they want to do and how aggressively they want to pursue an ultra right wing agenda. I don't think they're quite as stealthy as Bush/Cheney were.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 12:52 PM
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18. I can't disagree with anything you've said
The world has changed a lot since Bush/Cheney assumed the dictatorship of America. And far too many Americans have been more than willing to suspend their good judgment, their beliefs, and to put their brains on "hold."

Today, the entire Republican Party is being up front on wanting to screw us on health care and every other issue that most people are for. The fact that Palin and Bachmann are being up front about being greedy, opportunistic, and insane doesn't seem to me to be a negative in the current environment. Perhaps stealth has become unnecessary in the rabbit hole into which we seem to have fallen.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 12:53 PM
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19. They're terrorists!
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