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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:49 AM
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If we could pick up three more Senate seats in this next election
We could tell Lieberman, Ben Nelson, and Lincoln to go climb a rope...They would suddenly become completely Powerless. I would love dearly for that day to come.. Screw them..
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:55 AM
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1. Even if we did, which is unlikely, they would most likely be
3 more blue dogs. Think about it. I don't believe there are any blue state Sens left to get!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:16 AM
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10. Maine. We need two real Dems there. nt
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:03 AM
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15. And that is always going to be our problem under this system.
Even if we got solid liberals in every state Obama won, we'd have only 56 solid liberals, and still be left with some blue dogs if we were to have a 60 seat majority. And frankly, sweeping all 56 seats with solid liberals is an impossibility.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:57 AM
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2. Pick up more? I doubt it. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:59 AM
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3. we could lose one senator from illinois
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:09 AM
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7. To which add....
CT, NV, AR, and DE...

I think the odds of an increased majority are essentially nil.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:01 AM
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4. We're gonna lose 3 or more because of the Bluedogs obstruction of real reform
They're already working for the Other Side.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:08 AM
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5. As it's going now, dems are going to lose seats, in my opinion
I would be very surprised if they picked up seats.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:08 AM
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6. ...we might almost have a Democratic majority! (NT)
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:09 AM
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8. The Democratic Party could have 98 seats in the Senate and still manage to fuck everything up.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:11 AM
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9. Do you think Republicans do a better job?
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:29 AM
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21. Republicans Damn Sure Do a Better Job of Getting Things Done.
We may not like the things they get done, but that doesn't seem to stop them from doing them.

I'm reminded of an episode of the Simpsons years ago, when Bart's elephant Stampy got loose and was wreaking havoc through Springfield. He charged through the Republican headquarters, where there was a sign hung that said "We're Just Plain Evil." Then he charged through the Democrats headquarters, where there was a sign hung that said, "We Can't Govern."

How true both those signs are.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:21 AM
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22. Actually a difference is; Democrats do Govern, Republicans RULE.
Governing is a much more difficult process. Republicans RULE with an iron fist..That is pretty easy.. Doesn't make them correct though.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:05 PM
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26. In light of what's going on with health care in the House, a better question might be,
Do you think the Republicans could do any worse?"

You know, I'm tired of getting fucked over and being told I should be glad Republicans aren't doing the fucking. That old canard really needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot. There's no tread left on that tire.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:26 AM
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20. So Very True.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:55 AM
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24. Agreed
They could have 98, 102, 160.75 and I am wondering if it would make any difference......
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:43 AM
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11. As the last several years have proven, numbers aren't the important
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 08:44 AM by mmonk
thing as much as what the stand of the candidate is. There are democrats that are on the polar opposite side of the political spectrum in the Democratic Party. Thus it can be weak and ineffective against strong opposition. We need to reduce the number of bad democrats (those that support the opposite party in the major issues of our time). The leadership has to have some sort of backbone and belief in the same ideas of the Democratic voters. I don't see it happening without voter education on a major scale. The two party system has a failure factor at its root.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:52 AM
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12. Well, Kentucky has a seat that is ripe for the picking if the Ky Dem Party
can get their act together. Beanball Bunning is finally retiring (hope someone tells him so he will know to go home) and Kentucky could actually elect a Dem if the stars align, money is raised and we work our tails off. McChinless McConnell will pull out all of the stops to put someone in that seat that will just be another echo chamber for his vote. He fights nasty, no-holds barred and can come up with mysterious money that other candidates can only dream about.

This one is going to take some face time with Obama here in Kentucky after the primary to get a Dem elected. Obama needs to be seen in Kentucky often to pull this off.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:13 AM
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16. We'll see what Obama does soon I suppose.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:25 AM
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19. Same scenario in Kansas
Brownback is retiring and the repukes are beating each other up for his seat. If the state Dem party would get their shit together and get behind a candidate who has already declared, we could take that seat.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:57 AM
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13. The Time Is Now To Do An Analysis Of The Upcoming Races......
and see what we as a group can do to influence the outcomes. I wouldn't be so fatalistic to say that the Dems are going to lose seats. If we know what states are in play and the players - we can use some DU magic to make the outcome favorable.

Come on people - look what we did to get where we are now. We just have to put a little more pressure on to really get the majority we need.

It can be done.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:16 AM
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17. We stll play the game as if we are in the minority.
Just anyone doesn't cut it. Progressives need to field candidates on every level that is possible. But the overall political culture has to change.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:58 AM
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14. If we could pick up three more Senate seats this next election,
It wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. The Democratic party has become as corporately corrupted as the Republicans, and there is going to be no real, meaningful reform in any area until we take corporate cash out of our government. This means publicly funded elections for all offices in this country.

Your comment reminds me of what people were saying earlier in this decade, "If we only had control of Congress, if we only have control of the White House, if only, if only." Well, we got our if only, but the trouble is, it doesn't make a dime's worth of difference. We are living under a two party/same corporate master system of government, and no matter how many if onlys we come up with, we can never escape that simple fact, our political parties, our so called representatives, put the good of corporate America ahead of actual real live Americans.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:18 AM
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18. As many of us would
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:49 AM
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23. We Could Get One Here In Ohio
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 10:50 AM by ChoppinBroccoli
I feel very confident that Voinovich's vacated Senate seat will be picked up by a Democrat in 2010. The question is which one. Right now, both Lee Fisher (Lt. Governor and longtime Democrat heavy-hitter) and Jennifer Brunner (Sec. of State and hot up-and-comer) seem to have interest in the seat, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of which one will end up being the candidate. My gut tells me it will be Brunner, which will be exciting because I know her from her days as a Franklin County Common Pleas Court Judge. That means I would have connections to BOTH of our Senators in Washington (because my dad used to work with Sherrod Brown's mom and met Sherrod a few times when he was younger).

And personally, I don't think the hand-picked Republican candidate for the seat has a snowball's chance of beating either one of the Democrats, so I think that's one seat we could pick up.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:56 AM
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25. We could get sold out by a caucus of 63 instead of 60!
That'd be fun! :D
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:13 PM
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27. Let's face it...We could have 100 and still get nothing done for the people.
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