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MerryBlooms Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:26 PM
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Violence against women on TV surges
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2009/10/29/violence-against-women-female-teens-surges-on-tv.aspx

The country comes unglued over a nip slip, but the tolerance for violence is way up there. Weird.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:31 PM
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1. cts (challenge the source)
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 05:32 PM by imdjh
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:26 PM
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16. I agree - fuck the "parents television counsel" - a known right-wing love of censorship group
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 10:27 PM by slay
seriously. don't like it - don't watch it. it's like the people who cried violence in video games.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:32 PM
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2. I'm staying off of tv.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:36 PM
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3. Oh, here comes the Pearl Clutcher Brigade.
4th Ninny Division. "The Fightin' Marms." Almira Gulch, C.O.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:37 PM
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4. roflmao, isnt this just TV shows the poster is talking about
just turn the channel or turn it off....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:39 PM
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5. Fucking cartoons. Family Guy. American Dad.
It's actually the same fundie group, the Parents Television Council, which launched all the complaints against Janet Jackson's tit.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:42 PM
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6. love what i have seen of those shows, funny as all hell
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MerryBlooms Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:46 PM
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7. I find it all very strange
Apparently people have no control over their own viewing habits ...

As far as Janet Jackson's nip slip - would any little kid have noticed if their parents hadn't come unglued about it?

The firestorm that followed was so over-the-top, it defied all logic.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:57 PM
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8. Just note some of the replies...
'nough said.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 07:44 PM
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9. fox is the worse network according to these guys...
this is about the bad words on tv...at the beginning of the article they *** the bad words. further down the article they spell the words in their entirety.

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/news/release/2008/1029.asp


after reading through some of their crap...it`s really not up to any standards of research
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 07:46 PM
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10. More nannyism.
Makes me want to :puke:

You don't like what's on? Turn the TV off.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 07:52 PM
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11. you don't think
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 08:08 PM by G_j
cultural trends are worth paying attention to?


edit: OK, I just informed myself of the source, so I'll have to hear this from somewhere else.

I am personally interested in the larger picture of our culture.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:25 PM
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12. got this from common sense media today. American Academy of Pediatrics
http://www.commonsensemedia.org/pediatricians-take-media-violence?utm_source=newsletter10.29.09&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=feature2

Parents trying to limit their kids' exposure to violent media now have a little more support -- from your kids' pediatrician. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Exposure to violence in media, including television, movies, music, and video games, represents a significant risk to the health of children and adolescents."

That means that dealing with the physical and mental health problems associated by overexposure to violent media is now part of the organization's official policy. Pediatricians might now ask kids about their media lives -- like how much TV they watch, whether they have a TV in their room, what kind of video games they play, and how much time they spend consuming media. If the replies suggest too much, your pediatrician might now counsel you and your kid on creating a "safer" media environment.

Beyond that, the AAP indicates that it will promote more responsible portrayal of violence to media producers and more useful and effective media ratings. (Of course, you can always rely on ours!)



http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/media-violence-sex-threaten-kids-pediatricians/Story?id=8866443&page=1

The AAP panel also focused on violence in various media, including TV, music, movies and video games in particular. They reviewed a variety of studies that found associations between media violence and aggressive behavior, bullying, desensitization to violence, nightmares, depression, sleep disturbances, and a fear of being harmed that could result in a teen carrying a weapon or acting more aggressively. The data show that the strength of these relationships is greater than more widely accepted medical associations, such as those between calcium intake and bone mass, lead ingestion and lower IQ, and condom nonuse and sexually acquired HIV infection, the authors asserted.

In fact, they wrote, the associations between violence on screen or in games and really life aggression are nearly as strong as the association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer.

Though pediatricians have accepted this as fact, they said, the American public, politicians, and parents have been slow to respond, and violent media remains easily accessible.

"Although exposure to media violence is not the sole factor contributing to aggression, antisocial attitudes, and violence among children and adolescents, it is an important health risk factor on which we, as pediatricians and members of a compassionate society, can intervene," the authors said.

They recommended that doctors routinely ask children how much TV they watch, and if there's a TV in the child's bedroom.



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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:19 PM
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15.  concerned
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 10:47 PM by G_j
the images of violence in our culture are disturbing, to say the least.
I have little respect for the people who produce those images. IMO, we really don't give a shit about the younger generations.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:35 PM
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17. my kids watched a handful of shows younger, but cartoons changed and fewer were
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 11:39 PM by seabeyond
acceptable for the kids to watch. it was all about being stupid or angry. we quit turning on the tv. and have never picked up the habit. if they watch tv it is history channel or discovery. they have never watched a prime time show and just are not interested. it is what we grew up on. the whole family sitting in one room and wathing a couple shows every night.

there are not any kid appropriate shows on. all conditioning a bunch of crap.

i am particular about computer games

refuse to allow the texting crap and cell phones

and no board chatting on net

they dont miss anything. and works better for all of us.

they read a lot. we have subscription to times, national geographic and smithsonian.

i started seeing the problems a decade ago. they never got into disney channel older shows. oldest hated how they protrayed the kids. and the conditioning of the kids

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:50 AM
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18. That is inspiring, though
I know, if I had ever had kids, I would have probably been a huge pushover.
I'm very liberal, a staunch believer in free speech,
But I truly believe that repeated cruel, violent imagery is damaging.
There is plenty of money to be made appealing to people's darker inclinations,
I blame the soulless greedy people who perpetuate it.
I'm not into censoring them, you offer the only real solution.
I'm very impressed that you have succeeded.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:59 AM
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19. the thing is, from youngest of age, if a parent points out the inappropriateness
of the show, like sponge bob, or ed ed and eddy.... it is all about stupid. i would tell them young. they want you to embrace stupid. we LOVE smart.

power girls always, always the face is angry. even when they are successful and win, the face is angry. too much anger in the world. kids saw in the RL all the anger.

also the shows they love. little bear, winnie the pooh. shows that make them feel good. that have good lesson, kindness, compassion, love. talk about it, show the difference. explain how it effects all of us.

i never lied. we always talk about all the issues. i didnt treat them like they were stupid.

they listen. they believe and they make these decisions for themselves as they get older. they learn to understand about the conditioning. they see it in peers and the peers behavior they dont condone or respect. they connect the dots

then

it is easy. i dont do. they do.

and now... teenagers, and they are so cool. i can appreciate them and enjoy them. not battle them.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:24 AM
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20. We were lucky , I guess.. We had "free-range" boys
They were too busy skateboarding, riding bikes, or picking fights with each other:rofl:

They actually watched very little tv, and once Atari came into our home and then Nintendo, they watched even less.. I paid for the games, so I had final say over which games they got, so there were no shoot-em-up games unless you include Space Invaders & Mario & Zelda ..

and there was not internet in this house until they were out of the house..

We were a family "on the cusp"..
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:59 AM
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21. in such an amazingly short time, the world for children has so shifted.
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 08:59 AM by seabeyond
a grand experiment. i tried to keep as much as your world for the children, my world for the children as much as possible. and embracing the nifty of the generation. hard balance to make. they certainly have to be way more informed, much earlier than ever before. will be a challenging generation for many
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:20 PM
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13. Yeah they cite Family Guy and American Dad. Come on.
:eyes:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:22 PM
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14. Thanks for your concern. Enjoy your stay!
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