All grandchildren need to call their grandparents and ask them why they want

[xultar]

medicare for themselves and not for anyone else like their own grandchildren.

Why would grandparents want their grandchildren to go without healthcare? Why do they want medicare for themselves but not for the grandchildren they love? Don't they want their grandchildren to be healthy?

We need to get Sarah Silverman to do another Schlep thing and this time make it for healthcare.

[Paper Roses]

1. And where did you get this information??? n/t

[whathehell]

2. Some of those Teabaggers must have grandchildren.

[xultar]

3. mmmmm kkkkkkay

[pnwmom]

8. What do you mean? Millions of seniors are among those who oppose

a public option -- even though they are covered under public health care themselves.

[xultar]

11. I know right? I swear sometimes I read DU and wonder WTF is going on.

That's why I don't spend much time here anymore.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Been to any tea bag event recently? Average age was about 60

that is the MEAN age.

That means half are OVER 60.

[Obamanaut]

4. All? I posted right here that I would like to see medicare

or a program similar to medicare for everyone. There is health care for the military, SCHIP for children, VA, Tricare for dependants and retirees, tricare for life for medicare supplement for military retirees over 65 - shouldn't be that hard to expand some or all of these to cover everyone. It is estimated that in those programs there are perhaps 100 million participants, just make it all inclusive.

I also sent the same request to my representative and both senators.

All you say? And I have grand and great grand children.

edited to add "unrec" for the all.

[xultar]

6. Do your grandparents read DU? Mine are dead or have dementia. The point is...

to appeal to the grandparents love for their grandchildren.

Calling your senator does not do that.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't call your senator NOW!!!!!!!11111

I'm just saying take another approach.

[Obamanaut]

13. That was dumb. You wanted all grandchildren to ask why their

grandparents don't want them to have a program that I have asked to have. Obviously, some of us grandparents DO want these programs expanded, or similar programs made available.

And no, my grandparents don't read squat. More dumb.

Maybe you meant "some", or "others whose grandparents already don't" or some such. But not all.

[xultar]

17. Ohhh MY FUCKING GAWD. Please put me on ignore.

[Obamanaut]

20. Absolutely not. I need comic relief from time to time.

"All grandchildren need to call their grandparents and ask them why they want medicare for themselves and not for anyone else like their own grandchildren."

Perhaps a rewording thusly: "All grandchildren need to call their grandparents and ask them IF THEY WANT MEDICARE NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES BUT FOR THEIR GRANDCHILDREN AS WELL."

Some grandparents really do want good stuff for the grandchildren. The original looks like an assumption that grandparents do not want..., without even checking.

[xultar]

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[Obamanaut]

24. Can't stand it when someone doesn't agree with you? Oh my fucking

Gawd, please put me on ignore.

edited to straighten out my request

[pnwmom]

10. Then your grandchildren can call you and ask your help

talking to your friends about why the public option isn't a threat to them and their medicare, and why it should be supported.

My mother has been busy lobbying HER friends, who have been getting all kinds of misinformation in their mailboxes and on their TV's.

[Obamanaut]

16. I am available for that. Had a dr appointment today, and talked

with two other old people. They seemed similarly like-minded, think medicare would do nicely for the masses.

I also talk with strangers when I go out for my daily motorcycle ride and stop for coffee. I am no longer bashful.

[pnwmom]

22. That's great! I think people like you will do the best job selling this

to seniors, because you can understand their concerns.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I told my reps the same thing

use medicare, or Tricare as a model for single payer for all.

[Fumesucker]

15. The perception is that that a great many people on Medicare are against a public option..

I'm not sure whether the perception is correct or not but that is the perception the OP is speaking to.

[xultar]

18. I think it would be great to get the conversation started. Then the old people can talk to their

friends and get them to get on board with HCR and or spread the word.

Like the Schlep thing Sarah Silverman did for Obama.

[Fumesucker]

5. Yep, any grandparent against a public option are saying that they dont want their grandkids..

To have the same health care they get.

I had an OP a couple of weeks ago saying the same thing, great minds think alike I guess. :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6195175

[xultar]

7. Did people not understand you too? I am gonna email Sarah Silverman

and ask her to do the schlep thing again.

I think it would work with this too. I think a grandparent hearing a grandchild ask them why they are against them getting good healthcare would kick the plaque off their brains. That way they could see what they are doing when they oppose HCR.

Sorry I didn't see your thread, I haven't been on DU very much.

[Fumesucker]

14. No problemo..

I didn't think you were copying me, hell I miss a lot of stuff on DU and I'm here more than I ought to be..

Sarah Silverman would be brilliant at this I think..

[Norrin Radd]

19. kr

Good idea.

[JohnnyLib2]

23. I wish my grandchildren would call about that!

I'd be happy to tell them that I certainly am in favor of healthcare for all, that their Republican parents have gone to the dark side and are wrong. (Yes, we have a prodigal son..... )

I might also tell them that they should take a look at DU. But don't copy the rough language!


:evilgrin:

[southernyankeebelle]

25. My grandchild doesn't have to call me. I have been on the front lines

with everyoneelse buddy. I have a great government program that my earned for us when he retired from the military. Since August I have been e-mailing and calling different congressmen and senators and asking them to pass a single payer or a public option plan for everyone. I am not selffish. I know many seniors that think like me too. I am willing to pay alittle more so everyone can be covered.

[DURHAM D]

26. Do you have a link supporting your theory.

I don't know anyone with grandchildren who do not want medicare/single payer for everyone. I am over 60 and have siblings/many many cousins/friends/etc. in this age group. All of them want single payer for everyone because they watch their children struggle to keep up.

I also don't know anyone over 65 who is not pissed off about medicare fraud as they fight everyday to help catch the wrong-doers. Right now my sister and I are in a battle with Hospice. Just last Thursday medicare provided us (for the first time) with a copy of a bill (they paid last year) for $13,000 for services (skilled nursing) Hospice supposedly provided to my Mother in her rest home during the last six weeks of her life. My father paid $10,000 for her care during that six weeks directly to the rest home. She was in a semi-conscious condition, was taking no medication, was not eating, didn't have a feed tube, and could not move. And somehow Hospice got into the picture and billed for her death. The only service we are aware of is that a Hospice worker kept finding my Dad and discussing his emotional reaction and acceptance of her pending departure. Given that some member of the family was at her side at all times during her last several weeks and given that my Mother had already been living in that unit for two years we knew all of the care providers. We never met a nurse from Hospice. We think the rest home may be getting a cut and are in on the fraud of seeking double payment for the same woman's death.

We are absolutely over the top angry and will get it clawed back from Hospice for medicare and for us and for you.

[REP]

27. Called my grandparents; they said, "Fuck off, we're dead" (kick)

Though I do wonder about these mythical beings that give a crap about their children or their children's children. I've read about them in books, but we didn't have them when I was growing up. And my mother would fucking coldcock you if you called her a grandmother. She may be old, but she's no granny, thankyouverymuch! (unless you count my cats or my brother's dogs).