Extremist doctors: Saving women from the anguish of sluttiness

[ccharles000]

In theory, the concept is simple: a woman walks into a pharmacy with a birth-control prescription from her doctor and should walk out with the medication—without intimidation, without delay, without a run-around. But in reality, there is a growing movement of pharmacists refusing to fill women's legally prescribed birth-control prescriptions. Some pharmacists even go so far as to lecture women, humiliate them in public, or refuse to hand back the prescription after they refuse to fill it.

These pharmacists are emboldened because of laws referred to as refusal clauses (sometimes called "conscience" clauses), which permit a broad range of individuals and institutions—including hospitals, hospital employees, health-care providers, employers, and insurers—to refuse to provide, pay, counsel or even refer for medical treatment.

Recently there has been a resurgence of legislative activity related to refusal clauses. On the federal level, anti-choice members of Congress passed a sweeping law known as the Federal Refusal Clause, which permits health-care companies to refuse to comply with federal, state, and local laws and regulations that pertain to abortion services, counseling, and referrals. On the state level, in 2008, anti-choice legislators in 10 states have introduced bills like these. And, most recently, the Bush Department of Health and Human Services published a regulation that further expanded refusal rights; the regulation offers broad rights to employees who are only tangentially involved in providing the services at issue (for example, receptionists scheduling appointments), and it has the potential to grant entire health-care corporations the same "conscience" rights as those offered to individuals.

http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/issues/birth_control/pharmacy-access/

[Ian David]

1. Yet they will sell cigarettes to pregnant women, won't they? n/t

[Skittles]

2. this is pure misogyny

do they have the same reservations with viagra prescriptions? such utter fucking sanctimonious bullshit

[SeattleGirl]

8. Yes, it is, and it pisses me off to no end.

And of course they don't do the same thing with Viagra and Cialis. Hypocritical goddamned assholes!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

10. Why would they have the same reservations about viagra?

It would be hypocritical for them to sell condoms, the viagra reference just doesn't make sense.

[Curtland1015]

3. That will teach women who want to have sex without getting pregnant!

That's a "men only" thing! :sarcasm:

[Danger Mouse]

4. In other words it's the 'Misogony is A-OK! Clause'

[Nikki Stone1]

5. We. told. you. so.

Sigh. :(

[get the red out]

6. There is a student organization to train future pharmacists in this

There is a pharmacy organization, "Christian Pharmacists Association" that has student groups on campuses which train the pharmacy students in denying care due to their "conscience". I was thoroughly disgusted when I found out.

[xchrom]

7. it's too late for me. nt

[muntrv]

9. This is another racket for the mafia to get into if birth control pills are banned.

[smoogatz]

11. It's got nothing to do with conscience.

And everything to do with telling women what they're allowed to do with their vaginas. These are some sick, sick puppies. I hope I never run across one--I'm really not sure I could control my rage.

[demigoddess]

36. It has to do with trying to outbreed those horrible liberal atheists.

I also heart pat robertson blurt out one time that the reason that abortion was so terrible was the loss of 'all those white babies'. They are afraid they will be outnumbered by people with color in their skin.

[MagickMuffin]

12. Corporate policy should prohibit these practices

They could refuse to hire these "pharmacists" based on a loss of revenue. Before hiring these "pharmacists" they could ask where they stand on these issue.

And if enough corporations did this then that would force these "pharmacists" to seek employment elsewhere, perhaps Pat Robertson could open pharmacies.

Also women who are denied their prescriptions from these "pharmacists" should get their names and post them online, but before posting they should call and find out where they stand on prescribing PED (do they fill Viagra and other hard-on scripts). Take names and the place of employment. Reverse humiliation.

[theHandpuppet]

24. I think this was a great suggestion of yours

"Also women who are denied their prescriptions from these "pharmacists" should get their names and post them online, but before posting they should call and find out where they stand on prescribing PED (do they fill Viagra and other hard-on scripts). Take names and the place of employment. Reverse humiliation."

:thumbsup:

[MH1]

32. Pharmacies that allow this should be required to post a prominent notice

"We can pick and choose which of your prescriptions we will fill."

[elshiva]

13. Thank you, ccharles000 for posting this!

What about women who take birth control for ovarian cysts like me? Taking the pill helped shrink my cyst. Where do the fuck do these pharmacists get off in lecturing women that they don't even know? Again, they could have ovarian cysts or be sexually active, but can't emotionally or physically give birth. In many cases it's a life saver.

[SPedigrees]

14. I take birth control pills for post menopausal HRT. I buy mine on the internet.

They are low priced generic versions of estradiol and progesterone. The insurance cos and pharmaceutical cos and Christian pharmacists can all kiss my ass.

[elshiva]

18. Thank you. Another way that birth control is useful besides

contraceptive. I hate to be pro-corp, but Target pharmacy fills my prescription for birth control for free. I've heard about some Catholic run pharmacies that refuse birth control pills and condoms. That sucks.

[snake in the grass]

15. This infuriates me.

If they cannot fill the prescriptions, they should look for another profession, and refusing to return a prescription is grounds for a good thrashing. Seriously. How is it we never hear of vegans whining about working in an abattoir?

[johnaries]

16. It's their job. If they don't want to do their job they should seek

other employment. On my employment application, there was a section that asked if there was anything that would keep me from being able to perform the duties required of my position. Either their application didn't have this question or else they lied. Lying on an application is grounds for dismissal.

[Frank Cannon]

26. Amen to that, brother

A nurse or therapist who refused to treat a patient based on some bullshit philosophical grounds would be fired at worst and disciplined at best. Do your goddamn job or find another line of work.

[robinlynne]

35. aboslutely right.

[Solly Mack]

17. K&R

[no_hypocrisy]

19. Has the pharmacy itself purchased BC pills and has it in stock but these

particular pharmacists refuse to sell it or the product simply isn't on premises by design?

[Heidi]

20. Recommended.

:kick:

[Mariana]

21. They refuse to hand back the prescription slip?

First they won't do their jobs, but then they commit a theft too? And these thieves have the colossal nerve to claim to be such devout Christians? Why am I not surprised?

Please tell me these bullshit "conscience clauses" don't permit these thefts.

If anyone steals a prescription slip from me, I'm calling the police on the spot and reporting a theft in progress.

[guitar man]

30. yes it's theft

and gods help the asshole that would pull that shit on my wife, the cops couldn't get there fast enough to protect that dickweed :grr:

[MH1]

33. the bad news is that probably the cops in places like that

would not be interested in helping you.

[krabigirl]

22. Wow, they wouldn't be able to shame me. I'd laugh in their face and argue back ro

oh and I'd call the cops if they stole my prescription sip.

[krispos42]

23. And yet, when Muslim Somalies at the Minneapolis airport...

...were refusing to carry people that had unopened containers of alchohol, it was universally described as "stupid".

:banghead:

[Toasterlad]

25. Fucking Pharmacists Think They're Doctors.

All they do is put pills in a bottle. They have NO authority, moral or otherwise. Any one of them that pulls this shit should be forbidden to put pills in a bottle ever again.

[JBoy]

28. Actually in this case, they think they are god.

[Toasterlad]

31. Agreed. But Since Doctors Think They're God, I Assumed Doctors/God Was Synonymous.

[LeftHander]

27. K&R

[la_chupa]

29. I'm a black belt and I promise you there would be a serious smack down if someone tried that with me

true story

and no that isn't the dojo way blah blah blah non voilent blah blah blah

[Initech]

34. These pro-life pharmacists should all lose their licenses.

I'm so sick of the Talibornagains thinking they have complete control over women and well everybody. :grr: