With the opt out crap, how will AZ ever have a chance with Lumpy and Kyl the Bile?

[lonestarnot]

Will there be exodus from states w/o option to states w option?

[peace frog]

1. I doubt it

I think states opting out of PO will be similar to opting out of stimlus funding: some states will make loud threatening, boastful noises but in the end will not opt out because their needy residents would be furious with them if they did.

[gkhouston]

9. No. Texas will opt out and stay out. The people in power don't give a shit about the needy. n/t

[peace frog]

12. Maybe, maybe not

We shall see.

[thereismore]

2. Maybe just then people will vote them out! nt

[lonestarnot]

3. Apparently, you've never heard of Sun City.

:( They love Sheriff Joe.

[Tansy_Gold]

5. And they have Medicare and all the trappings of a very comfortable

retirement.

People who CHOOSE to live in places where they don't have to support public education because they don't even want schools and young people around them are, imho, anti-social. Such communities should never have been allowed to develop. patooie on Del Webb, who made so much money off his Sun Cities projects that he could buy the Y**kees.

And a much biger patooie on all similarly discriminatory communities.



Tansy Gold, plenty old enough to live in one and appalled by their very existence

[SoCalDem]

10. What industry they have, may decide to move to other places

and the loss of taxes from them and their employees, might mean HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES :rofl: we all know how some skinflint oldies love to pay taxes, don't we?

I see this every fall when we start up our new bowling season,.. the older ones holler about a measly $1.00 increase in fees, but then we go to the parking lot ans see their brand new Mercedes' and listen to them as they regale us all with their "Casino Tales".. :rofl:

[Tansy_Gold]

11. Oh, I hear you, I hear you!

I live in an area that has a lot of retirees and I am sooooooooooooooooooo sick of them bitching and whining about every little increase in this or that price. They ALL drive nice newer cars, they ALL are going on cruises or long vacations to NY or San Diego or SF, they even whine about their SS not going up enough while in the same breath saying "Of course, it's a good thing I don't have to depend on social security to live on or I'd starve."

Don't get me started.


Tansy Gold, who DOES depend on social security or she'd starve

[thereismore]

7. No I have not, but I educated myself now and it is a snakepit of xenophobia. nt

[brooklynite]

4. Kyl and McCain don't decide if AZ will opt out..

That would be a decision for the state government, which except for Obama's appointment was led by a Democratic Governor.

[lonestarnot]

6. "was" past tense.

[brooklynite]

8. MY point is that voters are willing to elect Dems even in "Red" states

and consequently, local politics may not allow an opt-out decision.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. All politics is local...

and I hate to say it, but the base will have to organize locally. That said, I do expect to see people moving from states without it to states that have it.

But I suspect taking it away after people get it, will be as politically doable as trying to attack Social Security. Perhaps that will get people to vote more blue... don't know.

Right now those saying no are not making any inroads politically.