Obama is actively discouraging Senate Democrats in their effort to include a public insurance option

[still_one]

with a state opt-out clause as part of health care reform. In its place, say multiple Democratic sources, Obama has indicated a preference for an alternative policy, favored by the insurance industry, which would see a public plan "triggered" into effect in the future by a failure of the industry to meet certain benchmarks.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/24/leaderless-senate-pushes_n_332844.html

What are we to believe?

[BrklynLiberal]

1. I sure hope this is not true.

[Marr]

4. Same here. Since this report completely dependent upon unnamed sources,

I'm inclined to put it aside. There's a lot of disinformation floating around.

[still_one]

5. I hope it isn't true either. First we had the politico nonesense, which was immediately

denied by all concerned parties, and now we have huffington post reporting this.

In both cases they don't name sources, just that their were multiple unamed sources

[NYC_SKP]

2. Sorry, I won't go to huffington post. The story is probably unsourced tripe.. I don't even know...

...why such a piece of speculation should even be posted here unless there is some reliable source associated with the story.

[still_one]

3. why, because I want to get insights from the folks at DU. I saw a so-called democratic

consultant on Ed Schutz last week saying that the public option didn't have the votes, and that the talk about reconciliation was nonsense since that should only be used for budget issues, not healthcare

If we have "democratic consultants", like that, they had better find new ones

[maglatinavi]

6. huffington

After Arianna called for the resignation of the Vice President, I am led to believe that she is unreliable... and maybe a little bit crazy??? She used to be a rabid Repug, remember???:freak: :tinfoilhat: :freak: :tinfoilhat:

[still_one]

8. See was a little crazy when she was a republican hack.

Also, this story doesn't have an author associated with it, which also makes it suspect

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. Orly Taitz' long lost sister, perhaps? Arianna has completely jumped the shark.

:crazy:
Nothing more than tabloid crap. The only named source (Dan Pfieffer) in the article says that this is a lie.

[cliffordu]

7. Yet another unnamed sources bullshit article.....Prolly written to

continue to fire up the base......

[still_one]

10. I tend to agree, and would sure like to know who is behind this crap

The article itself doesn't even have an author

[cliffordu]

12. "Unnamed sources" indeed.....

[Lex]

9. Evidently when we like the stories at HuffPo, it's great. And when we don't, it's crap.

nt

[still_one]

13. Interesting. However, what is disturbing, is this entire article is unsourced

and whether an article is pro or con, it should be sourced to have any credibility I would think

[MarjorieG]

11. Still possible to atv least get out of Senate with trigger, to be reconciled with opt-out later?

[Bitwit1234]

14. Obama

I can not believe that Obama would desert the very people who worked their butt off to get him elected. Doesn't he realize that those that put him there can work to take him out of office in the next election.

He must come out in favor of the public option. He must fufil one of the main promises he made to us. He must not fail us. We need elected officials who have our welfare in mind and not that of the insurance companies.

[still_one]

15. That is my gut also, especially since he has said the opposite of what this article

is saying, and I cannot find it plausible that he would behave so recklessly

[sandnsea]

18. How many times does he have to "come out in favor"

before you can hear him?

He doesn't want the opt-out OR the trigger. If you don't either, HELP FIGHT.

[tblue]

24. I have never heard him or his spokespeople say that ever.

[tblue]

23. It wouldn't be the first time,

sorry to say. I think we are as marginal to him as the far right. Bipartisanship, or the appearance of it, is his first priority.

[bvar22]

26. You can't believe?

Obama dropped LABOR like a hot potato by immediately trash canning EFCA and the "renegotiation of NAFTA".

Ask GLBT if Obama would desert them after they worked so hard.

[sandnsea]

16. DUers in red states don't like the opt-out

And are mad at Obama for even considering it.

So not even everybody at DU has the same opinion on the opt-out.

And I believe the White House has already said there is nothing officially decided about the trigger or the opt-out. They're Negotiating. That's what you do to pass legislation.

[AllentownJake]

17. I swear the democratic party has the worst media and message operation

I have ever seen right now.

[Jim Sagle]

19. Hope, but verify.

And verification is the hard part. The media are not our friends, and they won't help us.

Fact is, we don't know if Obama is friend or foe. I suggest holding off on final judgment at least until a good health reform bill passes, or doesn't.

[bvar22]

27. "Fact is, we don't know if Obama is friend or foe..."

After a 2 year campaign, and 10 months in the Oval Office, I can only conclude that this is by design.
The "Blank Slate"....friend or foe? :shrug:

There is THIS:

The DLC New Team
Progressives Need Not Apply


Republicans and Health Insurance Lobbyists have MORE access to The White House than the Progressive Caucus who have been reduced to "writing letters to the White House".

[Jim Sagle]

28. Can't argue with any of that. But it won't be long until we know for sure. I'll wait til then.

[excess_3]

20. 'opt-out' is code-speak for, the states have to PAY, or not?

please enlighten me

[yurbud]

21. the "trigger" would be on a gun aimed at our heads and Democrats feet

it would be the most direct way to say they refuse to put the people who put them in office first and that they only serve moneyed interests.

[democracy1st]

22. goldman sachs admin total bs, we'll see!

[backscatter712]

29. Arianna's Huff-n-Puff being drama-queeny again... n/t