going into a WalMart is offensive enough to my senses, (necessary)

[Joe Fields]

but having to walk in and see Glenn Beck's square roll of toilet paper prominently displayed as you walk in just makes me wretch.

I took every copy and hid them. One person saw what I was doing and grinned.

:evilgrin:

[lib2DaBone]

1. So true... walking into Wal-Mart is a negative....

I have been shopping at Wal-Mart Grocery.

I hate it. I hate the brain-dead clerks, I hate the warehouse atmosphere. I hate the people that shop at Wal-Mart

Yet, I am there. Because I am unemployed and I can not afford groceries.

Our country is so fucked up.. is there any turning back?

[Obamanaut]

6. You hate the "brain-dead clerks" who may be working at the only

job available, or who may be working at their second or third job to survive and thus are very tired.

You hate the "people that shop at Wal-Mart", some of whom may be unemployed and "can not afford groceries."

This is very sad.

[cbdo2007]

21. I don't get the people who are negative on Walmart.

Walmart provides more affordable products to more people in the United States than any other store and they employ more people than any other company.

True, like with any company they could do *better* regarding some things, but I don't think I could ever say I hated Walmart.

Really, imagine if there was no Walmart? More low income families shop at Walmart than any other store in the country. They literally keep millions and millions of people alive with their value, services, jobs, etc.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Here is a good place to start with learning more about WalMart

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

[Sal Minella]

26. I loathe and despise Wal-Mart for all the now-blank store-fronts they caused

in my little town and in the little towns around me. Many people were making good livings at these stores, and now all the money goes to Bentonville, Arkansas, to make the very richest even richer, while the Wal-Mart management continues to bust the kneecaps of anyone who tries to unionize the peons who have to work there because there's nowhere else left to work.

Does that make my feelings clear?

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. WalMart opened 50 super centers in Iowa and put 500 local stores out of business

I saw first hand what happened to the small town my friend lives in when a WalMart was built 40 miles away. Her town used to have a grocery store, a hardware store, an office supply store, a pharmacy, a card shop, a dress shop and more I probably am leaving out. Then the WalMart was built and those stores went out of business one by one. It was very sad. Now she has to drive 40 miles to buy anything other than milk and bread.

[Stargazer09]

46. Our local Wal-Mart moved a mile away

Left the old store to become a vacant eyesore, and all of the businesses nearby are struggling.

They literally built a brand new store and wrote off the old one. Not a good way to help the local economy, in my opinion.

[KamaAina]

121. Is the new store just outside city limits?

That's a favorite Sprawl-Mart trick: put the store a hundred yards or so outside the city limits, and voila! They only pay county taxes.

[Horse with no Name]

59. We once had a thriving town

Good schools, factories, shopping on the square...Walmart came to town. They were given free rent and considerable tax breaks.
With this money that they saved--they undercut EVERY single business in town...driving out everything except a couple of convenience stores, a Sonic and a Dairy Queen. Then they closed up and left town.
Even took the only pharmacy with them.
They knew that people would drive 30 miles any other way to shop at their larger Walmart stores anyway--since they drove out the business in THOSE towns too.
They are an abscess on the buttocks of America.

[RKP5637]

62. This happened in my hometown too. When I was a kid we had all types of...

stores and owners/employees quite happy. Now when I go back all of that is gone... in the middle of town sits an ugly gross WalMart, in the middle of tons of asphalt. Gone are the aspirations of owning your own small shop, all of the individuals that made America great. Now, many can aspire to be a clerk at WalMart. This is being played out across America. The fabric that made this nation great is being consumed by WalMart and similar. We can look at the banking industry and see similar, for example.

[RKP5637]

63. Why people do not see this is far beyond me. It is so obvious what is happening ...

as WalMart moves across America slowly consuming good livings and thriving stores / communities. Now, we have kids growing up thinking this is just the way it is... It is a pitiful picture being painted across American. America needs to wakeup, but it is doubtful... citizens seem to embrace being a bunch of toiling serfs.

[mitchum]

30. Give me a break

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. You do know that many of Walmart Employees CANNOT afford to shop

there?

You read right. They cannot shop there... because they are not paid enough to afford Wally World?

If you like a place that treats their employees that badly, by all means... go for it.

Oh and that is the tip of the iceberg with Wally World

[Doremus]

37. More of their employees need food stamps and other government assistance

than any other large company.

They aren't "keeping people alive with value, services, jobs." Social programs are.

As far as the other points in your company commercial, they are gaggingly false and misleading.

How long have you been in Walmart's employ?

[RKP5637]

64. Exactly True! Why people support WalMart is beyond me. WalMart is a disease! n/t

[quiller4]

42. Actually it is a myth that Walmart beats other merchants on price

I would love to see a world without Walmart. In almost every community where Walmart locates, the total number of jobs in the community drops because the local merchants Walmart drives out of business employed more people than does the Walmart "Superstore". The wages in the community decline, too. Within three months of a super store opening in my community, five locally owned groceries closed as did a local dairy which had depended on sales to the locally owned stores. Although the Walmart store is large, we saw a net decline in 6 months time of 200 jobs.

The only time I go near a Walmart it is to carry a picket sign out front.

[emilyg]

49. I like shopping at Wal-Mart. Nice to save money.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

85. Watch "The High Cost of Low Prices". There is much more to your actions

than you may be aware of.

[emilyg]

88. In my younger days I cared. I lost

1/2 of my savings last year. Today I am 71 - gotta look out for myself.

[Horse with no Name]

60. They also pay their employees enough under the minimums

so not only do they receive tax breaks from the towns they are in, many of their employees receive food stamps and Medicaid.
Kind of like stirring the pot with a dirty spoon, wouldn't you say?

[Stevenmarc]

68. Gee, perhaps it's because they have destroyed

more manufacturing jobs, in this country, then any other single entity.

[marmar]

83. "Really, imagine if there was no Walmart?"

Perhaps we wouldn't be involved in this global race to the bottom to pay "Wal-Mart wages".....

Perhaps lower income families' incomes would be higher without the Wal-Mart effect on wages.....

[HCE SuiGeneris]

84. Watch "The High Cost of Low Prices". You might "get" it then.

[mwb970]

94. The fact is, they have a lot of stuff, at good prices.

I shopped there recently for kitchen supplies and was surprised by the amount and quality of the products offered. I bought a whole bunch of great stuff. I guess the earlier poster "hates" me for this, but I really don't care.

[cbdo2007]

108. Don't worry about it....they're all delusional.

For some reason they think businesses should never evolve and change.

And I can't even get started in the economics/union argument as I've tried that before on DU and have trouble getting intelligent arguments in return.

You're correct though, the fact is that hundreds of millions of American's shop at Walmart and get good stuff at good prices and many, many tens of millions of American's livlihoods depend on Walmart.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

95. Wal mart sells junk from China

Think you're getting a bargin, think again. I would be so happy if they went out of business.

[kjackson227]

113. I shop at Walmart, also. Walmart does have a lot of items...

that are made in China, but I try to shop around those items. Walmart's prices are cheaper than any grocery chain that I've ever shopped at. Also, I've heard (from employees), that Walmart has cleaned up their act (at least in Dallas), and they treat their employees a whole lot better, and the benefits are good. This one employee said that store managers make upwards to $60,000 per year, which is a very good salary in the Dallas area. They must be doing something right because I've seen the same employees employed there for the past five or so years. But, in order to offer a competitive streak for the area, I do spread the wealth and shop at other grocery stores also.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

130. Are you serious? You don't get it? Walmart is profiting off child labor in China!

You do know how they get those LOW LOW prices dont you??? They find vendors who undercut everyone by manufacturing items with child/forced/prisoner labor in Communist CHINA!!!

Then much of this inferior product is sold to Walmart at rock bottom prices and we then have recalls for CRAP that makes us and our pets sick!!

Walmart has so perverted the original intent of their founder Sam Walton that it makes one want to vomit!!

Sam Walton always PROUDLY said he wanted only merchandise that was MADE IN AMERICA - he built the company on that model and you know, that's the way it should be.

One reason for so much unemployment in our country is that the greedy heirs of Sam Walton have abandoned our country for their own personal wealth.

SAM WALTON IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE!!! Shame on the Walton family!!!

PLEASE BOYCOTT THEM.

[GoCubsGo]

72. I'm unemployed and have a hard time affording groceries...

But, I don't shop at Walmart. I can get ANYTHING cheaper elsewhere, especially through the use of sale papers and coupons, which WalMart does not double. All but one grocery store around here does. I have a pretty good sense of what things cost. I can almost always find any product elsewhere at a lower price. Despite their claims, WalMart does not have the "lowest prices--always." But, that's what people are buying into when they go there. They believe those claims, but rarely bother to verify them. When they do have lower prices, it's only by a few pennies, which for me, is not worth putting up with the cluttered aisles, and knuckle-dragging shoppers that patronize my local stores.

As for the "brain-dead clerks", I heartily agree with you on that one. That's another reason I refuse to shop there. I cannot abide by the way they treat their employees.

[Obamanaut]

81. Here is another example of what I was referring to in post 6

"knuckle-dragging shoppers that patronize my local stores."

The "brain-dead clerks" was from the post that I was responding to. They might simply be tired from working another job, or tending an ailing relative, or something. We never know what makes another person the way he (she) is

These are, imo, spewings from the keyboards of arrogant people who say they don't go there but probably do, who say they never listen to Limbaugh or watch FOX, but manage to post snippets quoting both of those sources.

Why can we not simply say "That person who waited on me today in the store no one ever goes in certainly looked tired." Why "brain dead?" Why refer to people in the store no one goes to as "knuckle draggers?"

[RKP5637]

14. I really hate WalMart too for the reasons you said plus the small businesses they...

have destroyed in communities, what they did to their employees, suppliers, domination and taking advantage of poor people and cheap labor across the globe and their cavalier attitude of world domination with WalMart.

Now, they are held up as the esteemed business model of the future to be praised. If WalMart is an example of the future, there is little hope. As long as there is excessive gross greed and runaway capitalism there will be no turning back. Consumerism to the extreme has become a sickness in this country.

I just find WalMart and all it stands for to be so completely gross. American has become dominated by these huge corporations eating up America and Americans for profit and greed at any cost to America or Americans.

[paulsby]

47. you "hate the people that shop at Wal-Mart"

the mind boggles.

[MadHound]

48. Love that good liberal ethic

Hating the poor and unfortunate for where they are forced to shop. Who says that conservatives are the only elitists around.

I can understand your hatred of the store, I'm there with you. But hating the people who patronize the place, nope, can't go there with you. Many of them are in the same boat as you, unemployed, underemployed, going to the only place they can afford to shop (or in smaller towns, the only place to shop period).

Or is this simply a manifestation of your own self loathing?

[TommyO]

97. I'm not a big fan of Walmart

but anybody who expresses hatred for Walmart's employees or shoppers immediately turns me off to them, because they are saying that they hate my mother.

There are many people where Walmart is the only choice, either for location or economic reasons. My mother is a person who shops at Walmart because the groceries that she uses regularly it costs her far less than at the other supermarket in her area. for somebody on a fixed income, it's a no-brainer.

[Codeine]

80. Jerk.

Those "brain-dead clerks" are people working a shitty job, dealing with shitty customers, gettting a shitty wage from a shitty company because that's what they need to do to feed their families and survive.

I'm so very sick of liberals denigrating the working class poor and then acting mystified when they don't vote for us. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Quantess]

86. Thank you. I agree.

[Rhythm]

106. Couldn't have said it better myself...

[Occam Bandage]

109. Have you ever considered the possibility that the people who shop there

are shopping there for the same reason you are: that they're poor? Or that the "brain-dead clerks" seem brain-dead because their poverty forces them to work one of the most mentally deadening, unfulfilling jobs in America? Your fellow Wal-Mart shoppers and Wal-Mart employees should not be objects of hatred nor of sympathy. They're your brothers in economic oppression; your fellow victims of unchecked capitalism. Why hate them? So you can convince yourself that you're somehow better than them? Then you're engaging in class warfare, only you're fighting for the wrong side.

I don't hate people for shopping and working at Wal-Mart; I hate Wal-Mart for leading a modern economic serfdom. The people who work at Wal-Mart and the people who shop at Wal-Mart are all just trying to get by.

[AllentownJake]

2. I had to go there today

We take my brother shopping when we visit him at the group home and he loves the place. He is always allowed to get a DVD and they have the best selection in the small town where his group home is located.

I hate going in there too, I generally only do it when I visit my brother, although I did buy fireworks there this fourth of July.

[FarCenter]

3. People of WalMart

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Thanks, I was trying to remember the name of this site today

I was telling a friend about it.

[RKP5637]

15. Priceless. So true. Pictures worth a thousand words each. n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

120. Just wondering... How many words is THIS picture worth?

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Why is it ever necessary to go to WalMart?

I haven't been in a WalMart in years. We are lucky to have many alternatives here.

[AllentownJake]

7. I only go about once every 2 weeks or so because of my brother

He's autistic and it's hard to explain to an autistic person that a retailer is evil.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. I get that and I understand

I have a disabled sister who is on a fixed income and she shops at WalMart. Fortunately I don't have to go with her.

I don't believe the OP has that kind of reason however.

[Odin2005]

24. The noise, smells, and the horrible florescent lighting don't make the poor guy have a meltdown?

When I have to go there I go in and out as fast as I can before I have a meltdown myself. :scared:

[AllentownJake]

34. My brother likes

Movies, chips and cookies, and superheroes.

Wal-Mart has DVDs, a big chip aisle, and T-shirts with superheroes on them.

After Best Buy, it is his favorite place in the world.

[Odin2005]

44. Well as long as he's OK with it, LOL!

[juno jones]

51. Yep.

I relate. It sets off all my little aspie alarm bells. I have to force myself to go in (which is seldom, mostly if we are on the road camping, etc.)

[AlienGirl]

65. How can he stand the morass of sensory overload that is Wal-Mart?

Holy crap, Wal-Marts are about the most godawful places for me to go, and I end up finding something shiny to rock and stare at so I can block out some of the motion/noise/stuffeverywhere/flickeringlights/perfume-music-BLAAAAH! that surrounds me.

Tucker

[Odin2005]

78. Oh, don't get me started about the perfume!

The flickering lights, too! :puke:

[Fumesucker]

9. You answered your own question..

You are lucky to have many alternatives..

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. The OP has the same alternatives

[Joe Fields]

17. name the alternatives I have in Independence. I'll wait for your answer,

In the meantime, go blow chunks, or something.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. LOL!! I shop in Independence all the time!! I was there today.

Went to Dollar Tree. There is also a KMart at Noland and I-70. And a Target and bunch of other stores out by the mall.

You really don't get out much, do you? Of course that would cut into your keyboard commando time.

[RKP5637]

28. Target is a good store and their prices are not bad. One of our favorites. KMart ...

has always been pretty good too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. I worked for KMart in high school and college

It was a good company to work for back then. Now that it has merged with Sears I don't know. I hope they still treat their employees well.

[RobinA]

50. See, Here's What

I don't get. Why is Target/KMart better than Wal*Mart? Do they pay more? Have better benefits? Treat their employees better? Not from what I hear from people who work there. I worked retail many years ago. They paid minimum wage, wouldn't make people full-time because then they'd have to pay benefits, expected people to work weekends, I worked 6 days a week 12 hour days at Christmas, they union busted like crazy... And this was a department store.

[U4ikLefty]

56. Name the store you worked that paid minimum wage.

Also please name the union that was "busted".

[Statistical]

82. I never understood that either.

My local grocery store pays minimum wage. Walmart average hourly wage is like $10.80.

I should shop the local non union grocery store because Walmart is ebil?

[Joe Fields]

I only shop WalMart for groceries. can't beat their prices.

I can find other consumables elsewhere.

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. There is a Price Chopper in Independence

I think there is an Aldi there too. Price Chopper is just as reasonable as WalMart.

[Joe Fields]

52. no shit, right across the street from me. I guess you never shop there,

because if you did, you would know that their prices are at least ten percent higher.

What kind of moron would think I haven't checked everywhere for the lowest prices? You think I like shopping at WalMart?

[Joe Fields]

53. One more thing, and then I'm done with you. This thread was about

WalMart prominently displaying Glenn Beck's book, and my disgust with it. Tell you what, though. You don't tell me where to shop, because obviously you don't know what you're talking about, and I won't tell you to quit blowing smoke up people's asses.

[U4ikLefty]

58. Looks to me that you were being called out on your BS & got mad.

lol!!!

[Joe Fields]

96. Excuse me, but, who the fuck are you?

I don't recall seeing you around here, and I have to wonder; do you always spout off on things you know nothing about?

Do you live in Independence?

If so, please tell me, oh wise one, just where I may be able to shop groceries at a cheaper price? As if I have never done any investigating on my own, you moron.

That person you refer to lives in another city. It is she who has no clue.

[proud2BlibKansan]

69. You were done with me a year ago

Yet you still reply. And I have proven repeatedly that I do indeed do know what I am talking about. You, on the other hand, have proven to be a jerk with a stick up your ass who spends way too much time online whining.

You started this thread. You didn't have to mention WHERE you saw Glenn Beck's book. And I am not the only one replying who is disturbed that you are shopping at WalMart. Surely you know that is a controversial topic here. You live in a big metropolitan area. You have many other choices. You should be counting your blessings. I do every time I drive by a WalMart.

[GoCubsGo]

73. We just got an Aldi here back in the Spring

I love 'em! I'm kicking myself for forgetting that I have a food dehydrator back when the had blueberries for a buck a pint. Not making that mistake with the pineapples! They don't have a huge selection, but they're out of Chicago, so occasionally, I can get things like Eli's cheesecake. German food, too, which is difficult to come by in these parts.

Also, I grew up in the Chicago area, and I used to go Aldi on Saturdays with my dad. This brings back some nice childhood memories. I always liked helping Dad with the grocery shopping, and not just because it got me out of some of the housework. ;-)

[SoCalDemGrrl]

131. Try Amazon online-u get groceries, housewares and shipping is free!!

And you save on gas and the stress of long check out lines!!

[Fumesucker]

45. Everyone in the country has the same alternatives?

I did not know that.

/Johnny Carson

[proud2BlibKansan]

74. The OP lives in the same city I do

We have plenty of alternatives other than WalMart.

[TommyO]

98. Do you know the OP's circumstances

to say that the alternatives that you have available are viable for the OP?

Get off your high horse and stop judging other DU posters.

[proud2BlibKansan]

110. We have an abundance of alternatives in this city

I don't need to know his particular circumstances to know he absolutely does have a multitude of other stores to choose from where the prices are just as reasonable if not more so, than WalMart. For that matter, we have several area food pantries where proof of income isn't even required. So no one in this metro area is forced by income or lack of choices to shop at WalMart.

As for a high horse, the OP began preaching to me from his own high horse awhile back. He is rude and condescending and if you read his other posts right here in this thread you could see that for yourself.

[Obamanaut]

13. Perhaps the answer to your question as to the necessity to go to

WalMart is in the message portion of your post.

In my small town, Walmart is the place to go for most general merchandise. It is the only place to go for things for babies - car seats, baby clothes, etc. It is the only place to go for men's work clothes and shoes, women's shoes, children's shoes - all shoes. There are only two other places that sell groceries, other than the ever-present convenience store on every corner.

The next closest town is 25 miles in one direction, the other points of the compass, about 65. There is no public transportation. Some people can't afford the gas to go to these other places.

So, good for you for not going into WalMart.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. The OP lives in the same city I do

We have many choices other than WalMart.

[Obamanaut]

61. Yes, but some do not. See my post #13 (slightly above). Not

everyone is so geographically fortunate.

[proud2BlibKansan]

112. I realize that and have addressed that point in this thread

AFAIAC, the only reason for ever shopping at WalMart is if it is the only store available offering merchandise priced at that level. In this situation it is not.

[nannah]

75. same in my town now...before walmart there were many stores. n/t

[Joe Fields]

16. maybe you should look around. Lots of poor people, you know?

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. If WalMart was the only discount store in town you would have a point

But you and I both know it isn't.

I have a friend who lives in a small town in KS. Her nearest grocery store is a WalMart 40 miles away. There used to be a grocery store in her town until the WalMart was built. Now she has to drive 40 miles to buy food. That's the main reason I refuse to go to WalMart. They are predators. In Iowa, WalMart opened 50 supercenters and 500 small local stores went out of business. The WalMart my friend has to shop at put about a dozen small locally owned stores out of business in addition to the grocery stores.

But fortunately we have many other choices here in the city.

[Odin2005]

27. Some of us are kinda strapped for cash, ya know.

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

70. There are other stores that have low prices

[Odin2005]

77. What? Target?

We don't have a CostCo here in Fargo.

[proud2BlibKansan]

79. Aldi's is great

It's also better in the long run to shop locally. Buy your produce in season from local farmers markets and your meat from local grocery stores. You will have better quality and live healthier too.

[demwing]

76. I hate the idea of Walmart, but shop there because I have to

A partial list of things I buy at Walmart because it's cheaper than ANYWHERE else:

kids clothes
toothpaste
shampoo
detergent
eggs
Rice Milk (I'm lactose intolerant)
regular milk
bread
chicken
frozen food
juice
in fact, most of my food shopping - the only thing I buy elsewhere is fresh veggies, because Walmart veggies don't keep well.
paper towels
toilet paper
deodorant
OTC meds
tools
printer paper
school supplies

All of these things are 5-10% cheaper at Walmart. Coupons can help, but don't cover the spread. On my income, thats the difference between paying rent and not. I hate supporting this company, but I'm not going to apologize for keeping me and my son off the street.

[Ron Green]

90. If the money you save at Wal-Mart makes the difference between your paying rent or not,

I suggest you need to do some serious reordering of your priorities. Anyone who's studied the issues on DU for a while knows the cost of shopping there is too high for any of us to bear.

[demwing]

92. I have no response to your obvious statement

that does not seem overly rude

[Ron Green]

115. I'm sorry. You're right to do what is best to supply your family, and

it's not my place to question your priorities. My antipathy for Wal-Mart sometimes blinds me to the extent they've gained control of the retail markets in so many places around the world, leaving very few choices for people with real and immediate needs. As you said yourself, you hate the idea of them, even as you give them your scarce money. This is, and should be, enough.

[demwing]

119. I think

that this was a very recommendable post. I wish I were as able to apologize to others with such dignity. Thank you for your kindness, and your positive example, which I will do my best to pay forward.

[TommyO]

99. My God, the lack of humanity and compassion that some display at DU is disgusting

The poster that you responded to has their priorities straight - shelter and sustenance, the basics.

[Ian David]

8. I've done the same sort of thing. n/t

[HughMoran]

12. Have been boycotting the place for 5 years now...

I don't miss the horrible mothers berating their kids in front of everybody (ruining their lives right before my eyes :( ).

[Joe Fields]

18. I boycotted it for decades, until I became poor.

[maglatinavi]

19. HORRIBLE MOTHERS ARE EVERY PLACE!!!

HOWEVER, MANY SENIORS ARE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO WORK AT WALMART. ONE OF THE FEW CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT SENIOR EMPLOYEES... I HATE THAT THEY HAVE SO MANY PRODUCTS MANUFACTURED IN CHINA... BUT SO DOES EVERY OTHER STORE... AND WHO SPONSOR THE PRODUCTIONS IN CHINA ? OUR VERY OWN CORPORATE FREAKS, I MEAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES...:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :patriot: :patriot: THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY UNEMPLOYED... THE OUTSOURCING OF JOBS...WHO BENEFIT FROM IT? ... I WONDER HOW MANY CONGRESS MEMEBERS HAVE INVESTMENT IN COS. THAT HAVE OUTSOURCED JOBS TO FRIGGING CHINA...FOR SLAVE LABOR...:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[maglatinavi]

20. WALMART, ETC.

[TommyO]

100. I see that at my local Shop Rite

Bad parents are bad parents regardless of where they shop.

[HughMoran]

103. The quality and quantity of brutal people at WalMart is astonishing

I wouldn't mention it if it wasn't an overwhelming sensation that I experience when I shop there - nowhere else even comes close for me. Add to this their horrible labor & benefits practices and the 'race to the bottom' with cheap Chinese crap and fruit-fly covered produce and I have more than enough reasons to never shop in that right-wing hell-hole for the rest of my life, thank you very much.

[TommyO]

104. But that's not what you stated originally.

I pointed out that bad parenting is bad parenting, regardless of where they shop and then you let loose.

[HughMoran]

117. Yes, but brutal human trash who beat their kids shop there way more than anyplace else I've been

I'm not sure why you're splitting hairs - if I want to shop with ignorant wife & kid beating rednecks, I will go to WalMart - few other places have trash like that.

[TommyO]

124. Splitting hairs by pointing out that bad parents don't always shop at Walmart?

Quite frankly, your stereotyping of Walmart customers has absolutely no place on DU.

[HughMoran]

126. That's quite the over-the-top interpretation of what I said

I originally said that I see violence toward children at WalMart and I don't like to see that - one reason I don't shop there.

I then stated that I rarely see this at other places I shop at.

I never stated that 1) everybody that shops at WalMart is a bad parent or 2) that bad parents don't shop elsewhere.

For you to attack me in this way is 1) bizarre and 2) makes me wonder what your stake in the right-wing dominated WalMart corp. is.

[demwing]

114. And yet, you DO shop there, as you stated in the post

as do many of us, who cannot afford to do all of our shopping elsewhere.

[HughMoran]

116. No, I posted based on memories of shopping there

I went in the place with my brother within the past year and nothing has changed - I don't consider it shopping there since I wasn't there to buy anything. I haven't shopped there for 5 years.

[Rebubula]

105. Yup...

..the only place that has horrible parents is WalMart.

Sometimes, the level of stupid masquerading as progressiveness is numbing.

So...many here despise WalMart. I have no real problem with that - they have some serious anti-union policies. However, the desire to be 'More Progressive that Thou' gets people denigrating those that are less fortunate than them.

I guess it is OK to make fun of poor, uneducated people as long as they are shopping places that we do not like. The People of WalMart site is really kind of sick in a classism kind of way.

Remember - Hate the Game...not the player. Making fun of those that have to shop at Walmart just makes you look like an elitist asshole with more 'ethics' than understanding.

[HughMoran]

118. So, I need to watch human trash destroying their children's lives to be a good progressive?

Holy crap - I had no idea what the qualifications were. As an inner city kid, I have no issue with poor people, I simply hate child abuse.

[HughBeaumont]

31. It's the same at Border's.

That nozzle has the most massively prominent display in the whole store. It may as well have Christmas lights and neon attached to it. I imagine it took a lot of shovels to stack that pile of shite so neatly.

[madeline_con]

33. Hubby said he saw a lady looking at the "Beck TP"

and she was laughing her butt off.

[Texasgal]

36. God I get so sick of these

wal-mart threads.

:eyes:

[Joe Fields]

54. God, I get so sick of people whose only identity is the state they're from.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

38. You Can Actually FEEL The Evil When You Get Near A Wal-Mart

I boycotted Wal-Mart years ago (not out of some feeling of civic duty, but mainly because I hate everything about the store--if I did the list for you, it would be far too long for you to read--and besides, Target is superior in every way). But there have been a couple of occasions when I've been forced to run into a Wal-Mart for something. I actually FEEL much more negative about the world when I so much as enter the parking lot of a Wal-Mart. And one time I had my two sons (ages 1 and 3) with me, and they both started crying as soon as we got inside (they could feel the evil too).

Regarding your hiding of Glenn Beck's books, I do the same thing (or other similar things in the same vein) whenever I go to a book store or a place that sells books. What I normally do is cover up the offensive book with something that I think potential readers would like better (like one of the many available books on the subject of how Republicans all lie about everything all the time--there are plenty of them). Recently, I just grabbed a couple copies of Rolling Stone (the issue featuring the article about "The Republican Lie Machine," flipped it to that article, and just placed the magazine over the book. Sometimes, when I'm feeling a little more creative, I'll do something like move all the Glenn Beck/Anne Coulter books over to the Fiction section. Another one of my favorites is to go over to the Philosophy section of the bookstore, pick up all the copies of a book called "On Bullshit" (it's a small book, which could easily fit in a shirt pocket, but the cover says nothing but the title of the book) and place them right on top of the books in question (get it? So, they're literally ON bullshit?)

I particularly liked what one DU poster said a few weeks ago about seeing Beck's book on the shelf with a 30% off sticker on it. He picked it up, turned to the clerk, and said, "This is wrong. This guy's WAY more than 30% off." Wish I could remember who the poster was so I could give proper credit. I fully intend on doing that at some point when I visit my local bookstore.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. The last time I went to WalMart I was there to buy something I couldn't find anywhere else

On my way out the door, I saw some socks that I like so I picked up a package. The price was great. I got the socks home, opened them up and they were about two inches too long!

[cherokeeprogressive]

123. Now THAT'S evil. I'm surprised you couldn't feel it when you entered the parking lot! n/t

[Joe Fields]

55. "...move all the Glenn Beck/Ann Coulter books to the fiction section..."

I love it. And yes, you can feel the evil.

The beer's on me!

:toast:

[RKP5637]

66. "like move all the Glenn Beck/Anne Coulter books over to the Fiction section."

:rofl: :yourock:

[cherokeeprogressive]

122. Can you REALLY? No hyperbole, no bullshit, you can REALLY feel "The Evil"?

You really, honestly, FEEL more negative about the whole wide WORLD when you so much as enter the parking lot? No hyperbole, no bullshit?

Your sons, one who was only a year old and surely was barely able to speak intelligent words, CRIED when you went inside? They felt The Evil? They told you this? The youngest of your sons said "I feel evil in this place"?

I think you're full of bullshit, myself...

You move whole book displays to the Fiction section? Are you invisible when you do this? It doesn't bother you that you're making "busy work" for some employee who will eventually have to move those books back to their proper place?

Do you have a bag or something that you use to carry all those books titled "On Bullshit" from one part of the store to the other, or do you make multiple trips?

Bullshit: You're full of it.

[CBGLuthier]

125. My walmart is double evil, let me tell you why

My Walmart, less than a mile from my house is built right on top of the spot where Creighton Chaney was born.

After his father, Lon Chaney died, Creighton changed his name to his fathers.

Yes that is right. They built a Walmart on top of the wolfman's birth spot.

Brrr. I can feel the evil wafting this way now.

All of this is the absolute truth except for the evil part. Maybe I am not especially sensitive to evil.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. So you kow about Beck's book

the PUBLISHER bought rights to that prominent place in the store. They did this at Borders as well as Crown, or even my local supermarket.

That is how the publishing industry works. Given that our media, 98% of it, is produced by six major corporations, your changes or mine of getting that space are nil... unless you manage to sell to any of these publishers.

I know I won't. My work is way too controversial, (read liberal)

[Joe Fields]

57. I learn something new every day. Leave it to the publisher.

There has been such a bloodletting in the industry, that the average good writer's chances of getting a major publishing deal are nil.

You have to be some type of celebrity these days. Hell, that Heenan guy will land a book deal soon, I would bet.

[RKP5637]

67. They will sweep you under the rug! Money talks, integrity and honesty is worthless today. n/t

[StarfarerBill]

71. I've not shopped at Wal-Mart in almost 15 years.

There are less-odious alternatives to Wal-Mart. Using the only real powers we have as consumers in this capitalist socioeconomic system, boycotting them and shopping somewhere else, we can let WM know that we do not approve of them and that it's up to them to change.

[blues90]

87. I've never been in a wallyworld

I hope each and everyone of them are built on a sinkhole and all go in a instant over night. I have not been able to find one good thing about them and I have read a lot looking.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

89. I refuse to give them a cent and more Americans should do the same

[Manifestor_of_Light]

91. well then tell me where we in the country can go for alternatives?

Texas is awfully big as some of you may know.

I'm 80 miles from the nearest target;

20 miles from wallyworld and kroger (and Kroger does not have several items that Wallyworld does)

150 miles from the nearest Costco.

I hate Wallyworld too. But you know what I do? You talk about "Braindead clerks". I smile at them, and make sympathetic noises about how tired they must be. Make them laugh, if they are not too tired, by saying "Wow, it's a wild Saturday night in the big city" (this is in a town of 20K).
And when I leave with my stuff I tell them "Don't work too hard! Get your rest!".

They're human beings too. My dad Cliff, bless his memory, taught me to treat cashiers and waiters and such like people, and be sympathetic to their terrible jobs. To use a bit of human kindness which costs nothing, to make them feel a bit better that day.

And no, I am NOT a Christian. This is just the way I was raised.


:shrug:

[Obamanaut]

93. I REALLY wish I could 'rec' an individual post. I am retired now, but

worked in retail a couple of times following my navy retirement. When we go through any checkout line, I tell the clerk something dumb like "Today Miz O and I are going to be your favorite customers", and by the time we leave we have received at least one smile. And we thank them for their patience.

It doesn't cost us anything, and it isn't all that hard.

edited for spelling

[Bill219]

102. +1

[SoCalDemGrrl]

128. Try ordering online at Amazon. I get groceries there and houseware and free shipping

Can't beat it and you're not patronizing a corporation that supports just about everything we progressives abhor.

Try it, you'll like it and you'll save gas too - they will deliver to your door!!!!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

135. yeah and I'm 150 miles from civilization.

Don't think the milk and bread and fruit will stay fresh from that distance.

[HughMoran]

127. I agree - it's a right-wing haven and I refuse to support that

It's like supporting Faux "news" - I refuse to do it.

[CBGLuthier]

101. anyone wondering where the term liberal elitists comes from must read this thread

Just fucking hilarious reading. I swear I can hear the "sniff" some of you are making.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

129. Hey CBG YOU are the hilarious one. Have you ever tried to sell to Walmart??

My friend did and he was so excited to GET the first big order, he was jumping up and down thinking his future was solid cuz- jeez he now had Walmart as a vendor ----- then came the crap he had to endure to try and get the reorder after his product sold out - the buyers kept saying they found another vendor for 30% less, then 50% less, then 60% less and it got to the point where he realized that if he tried to enter a competitive bid, he'd be losing money....

So you have to ask yourself, where in the Hell is Walmart getting this product they are selling for rock bottom prices and how many jobs are they costing this country???

NO CBG we are not just a bunch of crazy liberals we are PATRIOTIC AMERICANS who want to support a fair wage and fair prices cuz this crap WALMART is trying to shove down our throats is inferior crap made with child labor in CHINA and by the way it's still COMMUNIST CHINA you idiot!!!!

WE ARE THE PATRIOTS AND YOU ARE SCUM !!!!!!!!!

[Joe Fields]

134. Let's review: You live in Southern California, some of the priciest areas to

live in this country, and you can afford to NOT shop at WalMart. How convenient for you and your principles.

Well, I cannot sustain my life or the life of my wife and son on my principles.

You call yourself a patriot and us scum. That kind of talk sounds awfully Republican to me.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

136. I don't buy your argument that you HAVE to shop at Walmart-there are options

have you checked out prices on Amazon for groceries - they are very competitive and offer free delivery. And certainly you must have a couple of supermarkets that offer weekly specials.

And no I'm not a Republican - I'm a lifelong Democrat and in fact my son worked for the DNC during the 2000 election.

You're the one sounding very Republican by putting us Duers down for respecting human rights and a working wage and all the other things that Walmart is the antithesis of.

I really took offense at your attack on us and calling us hilarious for standing up for our beliefs.

I have a Walmart just a couple miles away and I've seen their ads in the Sunday paper, but overall I don't think I would save much more than a few dollars by patronizing them and just about everything they sell is MADE in CHINA.

What ever happened to BUY AMERICAN????

[Joe Fields]

133. No shit!

Most here do shop at WalMart and hold their nose doing so, me included. But I do shop there and am not ashamed to admit it. Some here swear there are alternatives, as though I'm some moron who never investigated where I could find the best prices to get the biggest bang for my buck.

Dollars and sense.

[Occam Bandage]

107. Thank you for making life mildly more difficult for a Wal-Mart employee.

It was very good of you to take out your anger at your political opponents on a Wal-Mart employee earning minimum wage at 30 hours per week. By making him/her have to find and then undo your petty vandalism, you have sent him/her the appropriate message.

[Joe Fields]

132. Have you ever worked for WalMart? If not then move along.

I have worked at Wal;Mart, stocking groceries a couple of years ago. Believe me, I would have LOVED for a manager to tell me to straighten out the book racks.

You make me laugh with your fake disgust.

[snooper2]

111. YEAH! a WalMart thread with a little Book Store trickery on top

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: