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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:42 AM
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Obama Pushing for a Trigger Just to Get Snowe's Support?!?!
Here is the e-mail MoveOn just sent me:

Dear MoveOn member,

Breaking news: Senator Harry Reid and other Democratic leaders are moving to include a public health insurance option in their health care bill!1

That's fantastic, but there's one huge problem: reportedly, the White House is pushing Senate leaders to put in a "trigger" mechanism designed to kill the public option through indefinite delay.2

Why? The trigger proposal comes from Republican Senator Olympia Snowe, and according to CNN, the President thinks getting her vote will make the bill "more bipartisan."3

The President has said many, many times that a public option is the best way to keep insurance companies honest and lower skyrocketing health care costs. Senate Democrats are ready to fight for a public option—if the White House gives up now, it would be a tragic mistake.

Can you call the White House right away? Tell President Obama to stand with Senate Democrats and the American public to ensure the Senate bill includes a strong public health insurance option—not Senator Snowe's "trigger."

Here's where to call:

The White House
Phone: 202-456-1111 or 202-456-1414

Then, please report your call by clicking here:

http://pol.moveon.org/whcalls/indexb.html?id=17662-9516624-5anZZDx&t=3

Not surprisingly, a recent poll shows that health care with a public option is much more popular than a bipartisan plan without one.4 And a trigger would mean no public option for years, if ever:

* At best, it would delay a public health insurance option for years—at worst, it would never go into effect. A trigger would delay the public option until certain conditions are met. But there's already a crisis: high costs, millions of uninsured, and a lack of choice for all of us. The conditions for a "trigger" have already been met.5

* A decision to delay is a decision to deny. Even if the conditions for the "trigger" were met in ten years, Big Insurance would wage another massive campaign, all over again, to keep the public option from going into effect.

The trigger is a trap to kill real health care reform, a last-ditch effort by opponents of health care reform to gut the public option.6

The Senate could unveil a final bill any day now—possibly within hours. In these intense negotiations, it's crucial that the President stand strong for the public health insurance option. Can you call the White House today?

Here's where to call:

The White House
Phone: 202-456-1111 or 202-456-1414

Then let us know how it went here:

http://pol.moveon.org/whcalls/indexb.html?id=17662-9516624-5anZZDx&t=4

Thanks for all you do.

–Nita, Marika, Stephen, Kat, and the rest of the team

Sources:

1. "Public Option: It's Back," ABC News, October 22, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=84962&id=17662-9516624-5anZZDx&t=5

2. "Optional public option enters health care talks," CNN, October 22, 2009
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/22/health.care/

3. Ibid.

4. "Public option gains support," The Washington Post, October 20, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=84918&id=17662-9516624-5anZZDx&t=6

5. "A 'trigger' for the public health insurance option? Already triggered." NOW! Blog, May 20, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51443&id=17662-9516624-5anZZDx&t=7

6. Ibid.

Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.
PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. This email was sent to Lee Markowitz on October 23, 2009. To change your email address or update your contact info, click here. To remove yourself from this list, click here.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:45 AM
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1. No, it's that ol' chess game. Obama wants a strong public option!
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 11:46 AM by MNDemNY
:P You are not doubting the big "O" , now are you? (or did I miss an election, and Ms. Snowe is now POTUS??)
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:50 AM
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2. But even Jarrett said that Obama would NOT demand the PO..........
Aides: Obama Not Demanding Government-Run Option
Sun Oct-18-09 05:17 PM

Source: The NY Times

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama isn't demanding that health care legislation include a government-run insurance option even though he believes it would best meet his reform goals, White House advisers said Sunday.

The White House and lawmakers are trying to blend five House and Senate committee versions of health care legislation into a bill that will pass both houses, where near unanimous Republic opposition was expected.

House Democrats are insisting that there be a public option in competition with the private insurance industry to drive down the cost of coverage. In the Senate, Republicans and some Democrats oppose the measure, meaning inclusion of the public option would foreclose winning the 60 votes needed to advance a bill.

Senior adviser Valerie Jarrett said Obama believes the public plan is still the ''best possible choice,'' but she said he's not demanding it. David Axelrod, Obama's top adviser, said Senate opposition in both parties means ''we have to work through these issues.''

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/18/us/politics/AP-US-Obama-Health-Care.html?_r=1
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:51 AM
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3. I know. Was the "drippage" inadequate?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:40 PM
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19. Yes, untagged satire is no longer possible on DU
No matter how over-the-top you go, you will not outdo the "serious" posts.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:06 PM
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5. have you ever not doubted the Big O??
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:13 PM
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6. Actually, he has not surprised me at all.
He is doing exactly as I suspected he would. So, in answer to your question, I actually never "doubted" him for a minute. He is acting just like the right-of-center corporatist that I voted for. gobama?:-(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:35 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:42 PM
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:57 PM
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16. poke-poke.
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 01:27 PM by MNDemNY
:eyes: I suppose I'll get that," I had to log off, my mom needed the computer." Twerp.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 02:17 PM
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25. +1
Yes, not surprising in the least.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:53 AM
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4. How does one call the white house and actually get through? nt
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:40 PM
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11. Tell them you're the CEO of Goldmine Sucks?
:hide:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 02:18 PM
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26. LOL! I love it!
:thumbsup:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:54 PM
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15. Assuming, of course, that if you do, the person on the other end actually gives a shit
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:20 PM
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7. Triangulation worked ever so well for Clinton. If you don't mind being impeached.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:29 PM
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8. It was Politico.
They have an agenda.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:51 PM
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14. +1. And it isn't ours... nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:37 PM
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10. Yes!
No!

Maybe!


Honestly, who the hell knows. None of the reporting on this can be trusted.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:49 PM
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13. good post. KR.

I just signed up for moveon btw.
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 06:24 AM
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27. Good for you! They're one of the groups that I feel is really on our--the people's--side
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GodDamLiberal Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:14 PM
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17. I'm putting a trigger on my vote.
I vote for him again when we get a strong PO.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:25 PM
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18. Roger that! n/t
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 06:25 AM
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28. +1
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:42 PM
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20. LAME - a "Trigger" is an EXCUSE to NOT implement a PO AT ALL...and Dems need to tell Snowe
to go CHENEY HERSELF.

:wtf: is the matter with these pantywaist NINNIES? And OBAMA, no less.

Shit. WHY BOTHER with reforming health care AT ALL if they're going to pull this? As is, it's just a goddamned welfare plan for the for-profit insurance companies - AGAIN.

Oh. Like THAT is going to FIX ANYTHING? Jeeeeeeze!

Arrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :banghead:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:45 PM
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21. I'm so very pleased with the Republican we put in the Oval Office.
:nuke:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 02:00 PM
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22. "Reportedly" "According to CNN"
Glad to see that it's confirmed. :sarcasm:

That said, it's still a good idea to contact the White House and your reps and let them know that a trigger is not acceptable. It was a good idea to do so before this "report" came out, and it's still a good idea.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 02:03 PM
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23. Sounds more like he's pushing for Snowe's support so they can get away with a trigger.
I hope I'm wrong, but it looks that way right now to me.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 02:14 PM
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24. I wonder if this is based on the Politico story.
Politico Lies to Pressure Pelosi to drop Robust Public Option
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6839894
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