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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:00 PM
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Gitmo Detainees Inch Closer to United States-Amherst, MA wants to host some prisoners
http://washingtonindependent.com/64753/gitmo-detainees-inch-closer-to-united-states

Gitmo Detainees Inch Closer to United States
By Daphne Eviatar 10/22/09 12:54 PM


The political wrangling over where Guantanamo Bay detainees are going to go is only getting more complicated — and stranger — as the president’s deadline for closing the U.S. detention facility by late January draws closer.

On Tuesday, the Senate voted 79 to 19 to allow the Guantanamo detainees to come to the United States — but only to stand trial. The bill still doesn’t allow the prisoners to be housed in U.S. prisons, though, so it’s unclear how the logistics of that situation will work. But it does mean Congress has just cleared the way for the president to try the 9/11 detainees — Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four alleged co-conspirators — in a federal court in the New York or Washington, D.C., areas. As I reported yesterday, that’s becoming increasingly likely.

Signaling that not everyone in the country is so squeamish about actually living near terror suspects, though, Amherst, Mass. has decided to jump into the fray. The leafy college town of 30,000 may offer to host two of the men who’ve been imprisoned for years at Guantanamo without charge or trial. Only one has officially been cleared for release, though.

“We like to set our own foreign policy,’’ Ruth Hooke, a retired University of Massachusetts professor, a member of Pioneer Valley No More Guantanamos, told The Boston Globe this week.


To that end, Amherst would take Ahmed Belbacha, originally from Algeria, and Ravil Mingazov, a former Russian ballerina arrested in Pakistan. Both fear persecution if returned to their home countries. But while Belbacha was cleared for release two years ago by the Bush administration, Mingazov has never actually been deemed by the government not to pose any threat. His petition for habeas corpus is still pending in a D.C. federal court.

Hooke and some of her fellow Amherst Select Board members aren’t worried about that. The No More Guantanamos Group has been pressing for the release of at least five men, including Mingazov, since May. If Mingazov can be released to Amherst, the group says it will arrange for him to receive counseling.

On Monday night, by a vote of 2 to 1, the Amherst Select Board approved Hooke’s petition to have the town ask Congress to rescind its ban on allowing Guantanamo detainees to settle in the United States, and to offer to take these two particular prisoners. The matter will be addressed again at a special town meeting on Nov. 2.

Coincidentally, the Supreme Court earlier this week agreed to hear a case that asks a related question: who gets to decide whether detainees are released into the United States? The appeal to the high court comes from of a group of 17 Chinese Muslim Uighurs who’ve been denied entry into the United States, although they’ve all been cleared for release and were determined not to be dangerous. The Obama administration, and the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., have said that only the president and Department of Homeland Security have that power.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:03 PM
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1. That's not really the same thing as allowing the new Gitmo to be built in your state, is it?
:shrug:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:07 PM
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2. "...not everyone in the country is so squeamish about actually living near terror suspects"
Actually, I am. That's why I won't live in Dallas, Texas, anytime soon...
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:13 PM
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3. "Host" prisoners? Like one "hosts" foreign exchange students?
Who writes this garbage?
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:25 PM
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4. what is the problem with the US holding terrorists in prison?
We can hold cannibles, pedophiles, and child killers in our prisons, but we can't hold terrorists? As long as they are put away who cares where they go? I know sometimes some criminals are released when they shouldn't be but I don't think this would be the case here. I think just as with cases like Charles Manson I think some criminals are so abhorent to us they will never get out.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:33 PM
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6. Nobody (including any existing Federal or Military prison) wants to host 'em.
Perhaps we should house them in DC or NYC, if that's where they are to be tried.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:33 PM
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7. The problem is a bunch of rethugs (and some Dems) are "outraged"
at the mere thought, or so they say.

The fact that no one has ever escaped from a max security prison doesn't seem to matter.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:34 PM
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8. So send them to existing Federal prisons, and have done with it.
:shrug:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:29 PM
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5. They don't call UMass Amherst "Zoo Mass" for nothing...
A couple of terror suspects would only be more friends for the kids to party with.

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