Barnes & Noble’s Kindle-Killing, Dual-Screen ‘Nook’ E-Reader Leaked

[The Straight Story]

Barnes & Noble’s Kindle-Killing, Dual-Screen ‘Nook’ E-Reader Leaked



If you just ordered a Kindle, stop reading now or you’re in for a giant dose of buyer’s remorse. Pictures and details of Barnes and Noble’s forthcoming e-book reader have leaked, and it is hot, both inside and out. It will be on sale next Tuesday.

And if you think I don’t feel your pain, my delivery-tracker widget says my Kindle is in Cologne, Germany, and will arrive on my doorstep tomorrow.

The reader, named the “Nook,” looks a lot like Amazon’s white plastic e-book, only instead of the chiclet-keyboard there is a color multitouch screen, to be used as a keyboard or to browse books, cover-flow style. The machine runs Google’s Android OS, will have wireless capability from an unspecified carrier and comes in at the same $260 as the now rather old-fashioned-looking Kindle.

But it’s the details of the Barnes & Noble service itself that have us really interested. Gizmodo, which first broke the leaked images, has information that B&N will be discounting titles heavily in their electronic format, which is as is should be (no paper, printing or shipping costs). The Nook will also be able to get books from the Google Books Project.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/barnes-nobles-kindle-killing-dual-screen-nook-e-reader-leaked/

[supernova]

1. Nook E?

:rofl:

[Richardo]

2. My thought exactly.

"Nook-E Reader"?

[supernova]

6. We're still in jr high

:D

"Hey, could you give me my nookie?"

"Pass me my nookie, over there."

Six months from now... "Wow, nookies all over the place!"

[Richardo]

13. I know: "Leaked"?

We're beavis and butthead. :D

[arcadian]

5. Porn Pilot

[gmoney]

8. +69

I guess that's one way to sell it...

[MineralMan]

9. Perfect for reading adult books, I guess.

Actually, though, when they said "double-screen" I though they were talking about a two-page view. I'm disappointed that it's not that.

[supernova]

11. I'm with you

I though they meant a book layout where you see two facing pages at once, like an open book.

Silly me.

:P

But, I can see the value of a separate screen for user input.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. I hope the screen is easy to clean.

Just sayin'. :shrug:

[DemBones DemBones]

55. You owe me a new screen, dude.

:spray: :spray: :spray:

[blue sky at night]

3. i hereby award you the prize for most...

confused subject line i have read in months....it took me three reads to make sense of it. i love to read books this way but could never justify the price, i listen to books on cd from the library exclusively.

[lxlxlxl]

4. You know why these are such a big story? They are the new 'paper'

This about big companies staking out their position as delivering what is basically the new paper. No matter what it will look like (flexible, color, waterproof, etc...) doesnt matter at this point. they need to be in the 'game' in order to build the content partnerships, see what is popular, experiment with advertising...etc...etc...

[targetpractice]

19. You are correct...

And, the new Apple Tablet will own this market.

It's rumored that Apple is negotiating with book, textbook, magazine, and newspaper publishers currently... just as they did before launching the iTunes Music Store.

The Apple Tablet, or whatever it will be called, will play video and music in addition to displaying e-books and text... plus, it is believed that it will be able to run iPhone apps out the gate... So many things the Kinda and B&N Reader can't do.

I do think B&N is smart by supporting an any device strategy... Whereas Amazon Kindle books can't be read on a PC or Mac.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

7. Hey, if it will read nookie, I want one!

[Statistical]

10. Kindle main advantage is the service.

Amazon has lots of books and at very good discount. I checked B&N and they have a "whole" 12 titles on .net (compared to couple hundred on Amazon) and at full list price compared to 30% to 50% off on Amazon.

The Kindle is nothing special. Amazon figured out that customer isn't willing to pay full list price for a virtual product. If B&N doesn't get that then the product is pure fail.

[riderinthestorm]

25. I donwloaded an app from B and N a couple months ago for free with access to their full product line

on my laptop or cell phone. None of the books are over $10 including Dan Brown's latest release. You don't have to have their e-reader (like Kindle), you can download the book to any electronic device. I'm not sure what you're looking at - I uploaded the app at the store one day (sitting there mooching their free wifi for a few hours - heh) so I didn't get it off their website.

That's what I don't understand is why they feel they have to have an e-reader when they figured out how to bypass having to develop a machine. Is the market share that great? How many people are there anymore without access to a computer or cell phone? :shrug:

[Statistical]

27. eink is a 100000000000000x better than trying to read from a backlit LCD.

Not even in the same league. Kinda like comparing paper to papyrus.

Well I didn't do an exaustive search but I buy lots of programming reference books on Kindle via amazon.

Take this book for example:
http://www.amazon.com/ASP-NET-3-5-Unleashed/dp/B0011UCOZ2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1256069617&sr=1-2

50% off list.

B&N had about 12 books on the subject vs couple hundred on amazon and they wanted full retail. Sorry that is no contest. I like that B&N is open source format but they need to beef up their selection and get price down.

[Touchdown]

32. There's a Kindle Ap for iPhone. The screen is kind of small to read for any length of time though.

:hi:

[seabeyond]

36. hubby uses this. was playing with it, looking at titles other night. he only

goes after the free books though.

[Touchdown]

42. Stanza is another good ap. Lot's of free books.

Classics from Dickens, Wilde, Kafka, Dante, Baum, Carroll, Stephenson, Verne, Wells, Poe, Twain, Kipling, etc.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. The loaning feature sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I can't imagine that this was done with the publishing companies' permission.

[rucky]

15. Which is why I want to get the first-gen model.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

20. It's entirely likely that they'll be able to discontinue the feature even on the 1st gen models.

It's difficult to say, since the specifics of the feature haven't been revealed, but if it requires some kind of server-side interface to complete the transaction, then they could probably disable it with ease.

[truebrit71]

14. Just bought a Kindle. Absolutely love it!

Wonder what the battery life will be on the Nookie Device? That would be the biggest issue for me.

[markbark]

16. Great.... just what the world needs

another platform holy war.
:eyes:

--MAB

[Myrina]

17. I was at my local library last week, and when I walked in ...

... and took a whiff of the place and was overcome by the familiar and comforting smell of old books and newspapers and the hushed mumble of conversation and check-out clerks ... and smiled.

I can't ever imagine giving that up for some e-thing. Nope. Never.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

21. I don't see why the two need to be mutually exclusive.

There will always be materials that you can find at a library that won't be available on an e-book reader and vice-versa. Plus, many things will be much less expensive at a library than on an e-book reader.

[Myrina]

52. I suppose they don't, I just don't understand people who

... have to rush out and buy all the latest techie crap just because it's a shiny new toy that's going to be obsoleted by something newer and shinier in 6 months.

:shrug:

Hell, I still have my VCR from 2001 and ne'er will a Blu Ray cross my threshold.

[anigbrowl]

56. Well, I can think of a number of obvious benefits

If you're a student you save on carting a big load of books around. Or if you travel a lot and like/need to read, ditto. I haven't bought one of these and love my paper books, but I can see picking one up in a couple of years...I have a lot of textbooks and they take up considerable space/weight.

so you have a VCR and you won't buy a blu-ray...so what? If you're happy watching movies in poor quality, fine, but I don't see what's laudable about this. Some people like seeing movies the way they were intended to look, they are not at fault for preferring good quality.

[Myrina]

57. Wow, snippy much?

"so you have a VCR and you won't buy a blu-ray...so what? If you're happy watching movies in poor quality, fine, but I don't see what's laudable about this. "

I didn't say there was anything laudable about it, just that that's how I am.

Pick a fight someplace else. Jeez. :eyes:

[anigbrowl]

61. Hey, you brought it up. I don't think I'm the snippy one here.

But if we're going for irrelevant non-sequiteurs, I sure like that Haagen-Dasz strawberry.

[Touchdown]

72. As a condo dweller, You missed one big advantage. Shelf space!

I bought one of those Sony 400 disc DVD carousels and threw my black boxes in the recycle bin. My bookshelf looks like it's about to collapse. I pull something out and 3 other books come with it. I got no room for another shelf.

Also, according to McGraw Hill, e-textbooks will be 60% cheaper than hardbound textbooks. Less trees to chop down too!

On the down side. I don't want an author to sign my touchscreen device with a Sharpie.;)

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

71. I doubt the Kindle is going to be obsolete in six months.

They make their money from people buying e-books. There's no financial benefit in obsoleting people who are already buying e-books.

[seabeyond]

38. hubby been nagging about me getting one. other day i turn page and said, did you hear

did you hear that. the sweet sound of a page turning. dont have that on one of those. he says he can put the sound in his iphone app. lol,

[southernyankeebelle]

18. Thanks for telling me. We just got ours on Amazon for sale $289.00 but they

don't tell you about the software you have to install in it. We will get around to it next week. I got it for my husband for an early christmas present. He likes to read. In the long run I am happy we bought it.

[dmallind]

22. Anybody know if it has a backlight?

Only reason I don't have one of those Kindle things is their silly and disingenuous Luddite-ism over backlighting.

[Statistical]

28. You are confused.

e-ink is SOLID. It is like trying to put a backlight on the other side of a wall.

The whole point of e-ink is that it is NOT translucent. The backlight and constant refresh in LCD is what causes eye fatigue. If you want a backlight get a tablet or ipod.

The whole point of e-ink is that it is solid. It sets the text on the screen and then is fixed. It will never move ever until you change the page. This what makes reading it easy on the eyes.

Do physical books comes with a backlight? Do you shine a flashlight through the pages to get backlit text?

[Touchdown]

31. And full color comic books look beautiful on e-ink.

Popular Photography, Conde Nast Traveler, National Geographic, Big Hooters, etc. require color screens, something the e-ink isn't ready for prime time on. I'll wait for Apple's Tablet and Marvel's new line of e-comics.

[Statistical]

37. e-ink color is in the works however even color e-ink will not use a backlight.

[Touchdown]

39. Years away from affordability.

Apple's may be backlit, but if the rumors are true, it's brightness & contrast are adjustable for reading text or watching movies/editing photos. It reportedly using a LED multi touch screen.

[Statistical]

59. So a 32GB ipod touch w/ 3" screen cost $299.

How much do you think a 9" tablet with processor twice as power, higher resolution, larger screen, and larger battery is going to cost?

I think Apple is position this for the $1000+ tablet market not competing for <$200 readers. Hell maybe I am wrong but I don't see driving price of their "itablet" down because it destroys perceived value for ipod. If the itablet was say "only" $499 it would hurt sales of ipod @ $299/$399.

[Touchdown]

68. According to insiders, the range is $500-800

Positioned between an iPhone and the lowest Macbook at $1000.

Two models will be available. A basic student model, and a higher end one with a webcam and 3g. Both will be wifi capable. It's not only poised to compete with Kindle and Sony's reader, but Netbooks, UMPCs, Playstation Portable, Wacom's tablet controller, Nintendo DS, and probably cannibalize their own macbooks & iPods too.

If this tablet, whatever it's called comes out, it's not going to be just an e-reader. It will do that, but it will be a new product, a sort of travel computer. Much of what a notebook provides, but not as much, and more than a smart phone. It'll use a hybrid OS, that of between an iPhone OS and OSX. It's supposed to be compatible with all iPhone aps out of the box. Apple has told game designers to program for multiple size screens since last year.

From what I'm hearing, it'll not only do everything an iPod touch does, but photo editing, movie storage/playback/linked up to an external monitor as well, of course music jukebox, game player, most likely a Powerpoint/Keynote with a basic version of Pages (Word) for a bluetooth keyboard's use. Internet and e-mail will of course be part of it.

One more thing it's supposed to do is be a touch tablet pad for computers. When it's not in use as it's own computer, it can double as a Wacom type of art pad. Only with finger use, as opposed to stylus.

I see the iPods coming down after this gets released. They just cut the price of the top iMac by $500 today, and a new Top of the line iMac with a quad core for $200 less than the old top of the line. I do agree iPod touches are too expensive for what you get. Look for the 64g version to drop at least $50 to $100 next year.

The problem with the Kindle and the Nook is that they're single use machines. This Apple thing, if they ever say it exists, is a multi use product. Not a full blown computer, but also not a single use product like PSP or Kindle, or as slow and shitty as a $300 netbook. Apple doesn't do slow.

[Statistical]

70. I LOVE innovation.

If Kindle & Nook can't compete then they will disappear. It is simple as that.

I have no doubt Apple can make an innovative product. I just question the price. Apple stock price is soaring because their gross profit margins are 37% far higher than any other PC maker (not even in the same league). I just wonder if they are willing to get into low margin product.

The cheapest macbook is $999 and that is without a touchscreen. If Apple can release an "iTablet" for $500 I would buy one at launch. Not as an ebook reader (I really do believe in e-ink for reading) but as a surf the web, apps, media player appliance. However a $500 itablet would cripple their margins. Apple has resisted bring macbook prices below $1000 for years. I just don't see it happening, not for that price. If I am wrong I will eat crow (and be buying a mac tablet :) ).

If apple releases a $500 itablet you are right they likely will destroy ebook readers. $800 - $1000 not so much. I think ebooker readers will be below <$200 next year. By chirstmas 2010 we likely will see $149. Amazon build cost on kindle is like $185 so prices can come down.

[targetpractice]

76. Apples stock price is high because of record year-over-year growth...

...plus constant new products in the pipeline... plus profit margins (like you said).

Also, Apple has been willing to cut margins when it wants to grab a market segment... For example, they dramatically dropped the price of the iPhone only 2 months after the June 07 launch.

I think you articulated the value proposition of the Apple tablet... it will be a multi-function media tablet, running all iPhone apps, a version of OS X plus an e-reader. E-ink may be a value proposition to some (like yourself), but I predict that it's not important enough to sway most people from a $500 multi-function device like the Apple Tablet.

[targetpractice]

49. E-Ink is a solution looking for a problem...

The e-ink technology in the Kindle and Nook has been under development for years. At one time CRT displays caused eyestrain, and e-ink was thought to be the solution for prolonged reading of text... However, current LCD (especially LED backlit) displays are easy on the eyes and people stare at them all day long without problems.

And, young people read more content from an LCD display than from paper each day, and they are probably unaware that using computers once caused eyestrain.

These e-ink readers are the result of groupthink product management. The Apple Tablet will redefine the e-book market and make e-ink readers obsolete in short order.

[Statistical]

50. No eyestrain for LCD? It just magically gone? Wow

http://tinyurl.com/yhz397y

Weird. 1,750,000 results. Guess all these people didn't get the " LCD = no eyestrain" memo. As a software developer who stares at a pair of LCDs all day I can tell you that you are 100% wrong on this no eyestrain on LCD idea.

Last thing I want to do is curl up next to a flashing LCD screen when I get home. Also e-ink is good for about 6000 pages. At 1 page per minute that is 600 minutes or 10 hours of use. LCD will never be able to offer than kind of endurance.

[Touchdown]

69. Never say never when it comes to batteries.

With research goin on right now to make a 500 mile range electric car, some breakthrough is going to come about with battery tech. Not to mention that LCD's efficiencies haven't slowed down in the recent past.

[Pab Sungenis]

23. But can it handle PDF natively?

That's the main thing that stopped me from getting the Kindle: its proprietary format.

If I can read e-books and others published in PDF then I will buy this one. And it might be the final step needed to make e-books take off like e-music.

[Statistical]

29. The bigger Kindle (kindle DX) supports pdf natively.

It really is designed for textbooks / reference books though.

[whistler162]

67. Calibre does a good job of converting PDF's

to Kindle and other formats.

http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/download_windows

[TommyO]

78. According to the specs on the B&N website yes.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/compare/

[MorningGlow]

24. I am continually amused at how thick marketing folks can be

Yes, as evidenced in this thread, the "Nook" (pause) "e-reader" will henceforth be referred to as the "Nookie reader"--and for good reason.
:rofl:

When I was pregnant and Mr. MG and I were choosing names, we ran all options past my niece to see how each one would get corrupted on the playground--"Graham...cracker", "Tucker... (well...the obvious...)" I believe that's called market research. B&N's muckety-mucks might want to try it sometime...

In the meantime, thanks for the perpetual laugh, dumbass marketing department!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[anigbrowl]

40. That's not going to hurt them in the slightest

It's free publicity from people talking about it. Also, it turns out that the best-selling e-book genre is 'romance novels', ie literary soft porn. Women like e-book versions since nobody can see what they're reading, it's a big deal among genre publishers and writers who are enjoying an unanticipated increase in sales. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility that this was a deliberate choice :-)

[MorningGlow]

44. Ehhh I don't know

If a name is TOO silly, it can indeed hurt, as the product won't be taken seriously.

And yeah, marketers CAN be that stupid. I've known and worked with more than a few.

[Touchdown]

43. It's a dream name. Everybody wants their name to be Kleenex, Nintendo, TiVo, iPod

... once the brand name eclipses the proper term for the product, then sales are assured for practically life. Few people say tissues anymore, most say Kleenex.

[MorningGlow]

45. Catchy/household name is one thing, silly is another

This is the latter.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

62. Mace, Jell-o, Klennex, Zipper, Kerosene....

so very true.

[seaglass]

46. I read about this device last weekend, its name was "Athena"

maybe that was its code name, but I like Athena better. :-)

[MorningGlow]

47. Now THAT'S nice n/t

[Bonhomme Richard]

26. There is nothing like holding an old fashion book in your hand.

One thing I won't give up.

[DemBones DemBones]

54. If you have arthritis, holding books and turning pages is hard to do.

I'm in the market for an e-reader, waiting to see what's new before Christmas.

[TK421]

64. I agree 100%

[Touchdown]

30. I wouldn't jump in and buy one of those just yet, if I were you.

Because in February...





This is an artist's rendering.

Newspapers and magazines are reportedly in talks with Apple about repurposing their content onto a “new device,” presumably the rumored touchscreen tablet Apple will deliver in early 2010. Numerous reports suggest an Apple tablet would have a strong focus on redefining print media. Enabling in-app commerce through free apps was a crucial move to help make this goal a reality.

If Apple does indeed deliver a tablet, the key for publishers is to create a convenient experience that readers will pay for, as opposed to the content itself. A free app would be the first step toward offering that experience. (And then the publisher will have to figure out what to do about ads, but let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.)

Only now is the relevance of a touchscreen tablet becoming more clear. Scores of tablet devices have come and gone in years past, and many analysts and tech enthusiasts wondered why Apple would enter what is considered a failed product category. Clearly, Apple sees a gaping hole — the publishing industry’s lack of vision for a working digital model — and a touchscreen tablet, combined with the App Store and this new in-app sales model, would seek to fill it.

What’s in it for Apple? Primarily, squashing Amazon’s Kindle. Who would wish to read a digital newspaper or magazine on the Kindle’s drab e-ink screen if Apple delivers a multimedia-centric tablet? Wired’s Steven Levy shares my view in his assessment of the Kindle’s newspaper experience: “ plodding menu-based interface still made navigating newspapers difficult, and the rich graphic quality that makes magazines such an indulgence is totally missing. Even the flashiest print publication looks like The New England Journal of Medicine.”

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/tablet-print-2/

[Mudoria]

60. No thanks...

I'm not interested in some proprietary Crapple device. It'll be overpriced and they'll probably be on the make to corner the market on printed media much like they have tried to do with their music store. Fuck Steve Jobs...

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

74. Apple makes excellent products...

The only reason thier music store corners the market is because of the iPod. It has literally been the benchmark of personal music players and home music organization for nearly 8 years. The only thing apple does differently is they do not lower the price of products, opting instead to update the designs continuously - giving the consumer the best product possible. I don't see why you say Fuck Steeve Jobs when apple is consistently rolling out the best entertainment devices. Yes they're expensive, but they're the best.

And what evidence do you have that it will use only proprietary literature media? That would be terribly stupid on apple's part, especially since the current generation ebooks support so many open formats. My guess is that apple's ebook, with it's larger screen and apple's affinity for multimedia, will also support most image files as well as pdfs. Will apple develop a proprietary format of it's own for the apple store? Sure... just like amazon has it's restricted AZW format.

Think about it - comic books, comic strips, children's picture books, childrens interactive learning books, regular books with pictures, colored text, animation... there's too many features current ebooks don't widely support that something basically like an oversize ipod touch could offer. Enlarge the size of the ipod touch, charge $500 for a base model, and keep all of the ipod touch software with an added ebook application. The software platform exists and the only materials cost increase would come from providing a larger screen and better battery.

[optimator]

33. dont understand these "readers"

a regular computer works just fine

[The Straight Story]

41. Much easier to handle, lighter weight

I read books all the time on my laptop, but the battery on this thing won't last as long, more bulky to carry around (like sitting in the park, etc), and the Kindle has a built in wireless so one can easily download books while on the road and such.

[Statistical]

73. Computer is heavier, hotter, batter doesn't last as long, screen flicker & backlight = tiring on eye

Also I expect with competition finally arriving we will see $199 machines next year likely $149 by Christmas 2010.
Economies of scale and increased yields in e-ink could lead to $99 entry level readers in 2011.

The battery life is measured in page turns because the cellular powers down and it only uses power when changing pages not displaying them. Kindle is good for about 3000 or so pages before recharging, I figure this is similar.
Battery life will depend on how fast you read but I rarely charge mine more than once every couple weeks. A PC with active current draw for CPU & LCD will never be able to to that.

I liken the Kindle to the Commodore 64. It is "gadgety" and it works but it is only the beginning. Semiconductor progress is very fast (thanks Moores law). In 5-6 years there is no reason why we couldn't have a $199 machine that is in color with a pair of full size screens that closes like a book and can hold 100K books that lasts a month on a single charge. Google has a million public domain books available for free.

[seabeyond]

34. hubby has been nagging me about him buying a kindle since last year. i am seeing one for xmas

hm.... good wait and refusing a electronic book on my part. lol

doing the happy dance

[ddeclue]

48. Scientists unveil cellulose based reader that never requires batteries:

This device requires no software or firmware, does not need to be downloaded, can be used almost anywhere an e-book can be used, does not interfere with airline avionics, never needs batteries, made from all natural materials, can be recycled if desired, is drop proof, operates safely at temperatures from -100F to 200F, and very nearly silent:



:rofl:

[Touchdown]

51. But it does ignite at 451F.

I read that somewhere....:tinfoilhat:

[ddeclue]

53. Yeah that's why its safe operating range is limited to 200F

of course at those temps you'll need oven mits to operated it but it will operate far above the fail point of an "e-book".

:rofl:

[DireStrike]

58. Nobody ever deleted a book from my bookshelf.

Nor have I ever had to plug one in.

I am a luddite in this matter, in stark contrast to my usual technophilia.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

63. I thought they were going with PlasticLogic

. . . which looks to be a very cool thing indeed--though it appears the final product might not be flexible like the original, it's still a full 8.5 x 11 format.

[DemBones DemBones]

65. Glad I saw this. I was looking at Sony Reader Touch Edition,

which has features that suit me better than Kindle, but this is looking even better. I found another Gizmodo article that says:

"The choice of two different screens (and techs) on one device serves to overcome the shortcomings in e-ink, which lacks of richness and interactivity; and LCD's eyestrain and battery drain. (The LCD will remain inactive while books are being read.) Contrast this with the Kindle which uses the e-ink display to emulate a slow menu system and requires a physical keyboard for searching. Likewise, Sony's e-ink readers with touchscreens layers have reduced visibility. The B&N reader has none of these issues. "

I was concerned about the color touchscreen on the Nook being an annoyance so it's good to know it's inactive while you're reading a book. I also didn't know about the touchscreen layers over e-ink causing glare, which is a minus for the Sony.

Go here and scroll down to see several photo views of the Nook:

http://gizmodo.com/5380942/exclusive-first-photos-of-barnes--nobles-double-screen-e+reader

Somebody posted there that you can read the word "Athena" on the reader in one of the photos but my eyes aren't that sharp this time of day so I'm not sure about it. Maybe Wired is putting us on about the name.

[seaglass]

66. wrong place n/t

[PVnRT]

75. Leaked? I got an email about it from B&N two days ago.

Doesn't sound much like a "leak" to me.

[KamaAina]

77. Will it be accessible to people who are blind?

Nookie should be for everyone! :-)

Seriesly, Kindle got caught up in a pissing match over whether its text-to-speech feature infringed on the rights of audio books. Clearly these rights are far more important than using this technology to make books accessible to all. :sarcasm:

edit: grammar

[DemBones DemBones]

79. No, they have to use Braille for their

Nookie, just like sighted people in the dark. :evilgrin: